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Old Nov 12, 2024 | 10:10 PM
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So if you borrow 100%, say $130,000 for 7 years at 6%, your payments will be $1,899 per month. At the end of the term, your interest paid will be $29,525. The car may be worth 40% of MSRP (just a guess, maybe less). So you will have paid $130,000 plus $29,585 for a total of $159,585. Say the car is worth $52,000, so you will have lost $107,585. That’s a lot of change, you better of had a lot of fun. These are big boy toys, so just be aware. Now, if you have the cash in an investment account on the side, then you could probably erase most of the interest or even make the interest negative depending on your risk profile and market performance. Nevertheless, the depreciation is real regardless. So have fun with it if you’re going to buy one as you will pay handsomely for the time you own it. Just simple economics.
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Old Nov 12, 2024 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bbmoullet
So if you borrow 100%, say $130,000 for 7 years at 6%, your payments will be $1,899 per month. At the end of the term, your interest paid will be $29,525. The car may be worth 40% of MSRP (just a guess, maybe less). So you will have paid $130,000 plus $29,585 for a total of $159,585. Say the car is worth $52,000, so you will have lost $107,585. That’s a lot of change, you better of had a lot of fun. These are big boy toys, so just be aware. Now, if you have the cash in an investment account on the side, then you could probably erase most of the interest or even make the interest negative depending on your risk profile and market performance. Nevertheless, the depreciation is real regardless. So have fun with it if you’re going to buy one as you will pay handsomely for the time you own it. Just simple economics.
That's pretty much every sports car I have owned. Only difference is I have less desire to mod Corvettes as they are pretty much good as is on and off the track.

And yes, track time is also a exercise in wasteful spending as the skills gained are only useful on the track. Still fun 😊
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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I've tried to do business with USAA twice in the past on loans and they were terrible. They sure do like to push those commercials and marketing though.

Navy Federal financed my C8Z at full price no questions asked at a lower rate than I could find anywhere else. Used them almost exclusively on auto loans since my time in service and never had any issues.
I was with USAA for over 52 years before I left for philosophical/moral reasons. Their claims service is good, but their rates are no longer the best.

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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Performance nut
USAA just told me that they only fund 80% of MSRP on vehicles over $100k. Is this a common practice or is this just USAA? Never heard of this before.
I got 5.09 APR from USAA for 72 months, and they funded the whole amount. I was also flipped $7000.00 on the car I traded in, and they covered the entire $140,000.00 which is 115% of the invoice.
DM me if you need assistance looking for financing. I'm in the automotive financing business and can answer any questions you might have.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
If you need to finance more than 80% of the value of a 140k car, you need to look at other cars. You can't afford it. Really should not be financing any part of a high priced toy like this but this is not a financial advice forum.
You may be right, and I always pay cash for all my toys. But another way to look at it is if this car's buyers were limited only to those who require no financing, sales volume would likely fall. Maybe enough move it from a lower priced "mass-produced" car toward the more "limited production" price category of Ferrari, Lamborghini and others. Don't think very many of us would welcome that kind of price tag on a Corvette so as far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier no matter how you choose to pay for it!
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I retired from USAA in 2017. They are not what they were under Gen. Joe Robles.

NFCU is much better about auto loans and they accept all services now.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 05:53 PM
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I retired from USAA in 2017. They are not what they were under Gen. Joe Robles.

NFCU is much better about auto loans and they accept all services now.
Or better yet, certainly under General Robert F. McDermott.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 06:04 PM
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If the Z is your dream car and you do have to finance its worth being sad one day a month for the sheer driving experience the other 29 days
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Most of us don't keep these cars full-term so it's best to use other ppl's money. I would never pay cash for a car. Personally, I am usually out of my toys after 2 years or sooner...depending on what's available and I shop for deals.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
Don’t hold your breath they a depreciating FAST. I’d bet you are negative bad.
You are not kidding. I've been on an msrp list for years with stingray chevy, but I was looking at the lightly used market with cars having around 1500 miles, 3lz front lift, going for 120k. I think i'll wait a little bit and let the dust settle before getting into one.
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Originally Posted by kurumatt
You are not kidding. I've been on an msrp list for years with stingray chevy, but I was looking at the lightly used market with cars having around 1500 miles, 3lz front lift, going for 120k. I think i'll wait a little bit and let the dust settle before getting into one.
Not sure where you are seeing 3LZ Z06s for 120 here in Florida. Cheapest I've seen is 130 for a 23 with 5k miles. Who knows if the warranty is still in place since a fair amount were voided due to early resales.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 05:46 PM
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My local dealer just had a black Z marked down $7500. A new 25 HTC 3LZ. MSRP WAS 155k down to 148k. It went quick after that.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 05:56 PM
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You could always take a separate loan for the 20% you need to. Personal, home equity, from your 401 if you have one....

Definitely not what I would do but I don't have any way of getting a 10% return on my cash so I paid 90% of mine up front. My cash works for me by not paying interest on the entire amount.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zchris
Not sure where you are seeing 3LZ Z06s for 120 here in Florida. Cheapest I've seen is 130 for a 23 with 5k miles. Who knows if the warranty is still in place since a fair amount were voided due to early resales.
I live in FL, but I check autotempest country wide. If I buy out of state it's an excuse to go on a vacation. Got the stingray from MM in 22 and drove it back home. Good trip.
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Old Nov 14, 2024 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kurumatt
I live in FL, but I check autotempest country wide. If I buy out of state it's an excuse to go on a vacation. Got the stingray from MM in 22 and drove it back home. Good trip.
Values are always going to vary depending on location. Values drop more in northern states in the early winter months since most won't drive a C8Z in the snow and maybe not at all the entire winter. Here in Florida we have all year to enjoy our cars so values remain a bit higher.

I bought mine for msrp 2 months ago but did get 55k for my C7 GS so depending how you look at the numbers one could say I got a couple k off msrp. My msrp was 142 and im fairly certain my car wont drop below 120 retail value for a few years.
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Originally Posted by Zchris
You could always take a separate loan for the 20% you need to. Personal, home equity, from your 401 if you have one....

Definitely not what I would do but I don't have any way of getting a 10% return on my cash so I paid 90% of mine up front. My cash works for me by not paying interest on the entire amount.
This is absolutely horrible advice.
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Old Nov 15, 2024 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
This is absolutely horrible advice.
It wasn't advise. I even said i wouldn't do it but the OP seemed hell bent on not putting any money down so it was just a bad idea but an idea that could work. Lol
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
Don’t hold your breath they a depreciating FAST. I’d bet you are negative bad.
He said build equity on a Z06? and he paid 10k over MSRP????! Z06s prices are dropping... If he even tried selling his car right now, he's wont even get nearly MSRP. He's already lost 20k right there pretty much.
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