Is automatic that bad??
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Safety Car
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From: Maple
i dont mind a stick in traffic,,i drove a 5speed as a DD for 11 years..loved it..i just thought that one with the warranty, but i checked with the guy and he said the GMPP is not transferable to a Canadian owner...
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I've actually read of problems with the manual where people can't shift from 2nd to 3rd when they are "on-the-go." Not surprised as my '01 Trans Am had the same problem. I haven't heard of any problems with the automatic so far.
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From: Midland TX
For normal around town driving I would go with an auto.
For drag racing (bracket racing) they say automatics are much more consistent so they work better.
For road racing / HPDE, I think a manual is the only way to go unless you want to manually shift the auto. I ran an automatic at a HPDE and was getting killed by "slower" cars because I could not get on the power coming out of corners. It would want to downshift at the wrong time/place. When it would downshift, it was like it took a deep breath first which sort of unloaded the chassis.
This was my first time on the track so I did not want to fool with trying to manually downshift/upshift. I was afraid with the stock shifter I would throw it into Neutral.
I also got high trans temp warnings about 3/4 through each session. Yes that could be solved with a transmission cooler...
I drove my 6 speed on the track the other day and I had much more control of the car, shifted when I wanted, and powered through and out of corners much better than the A4.
Just my observations.
Oh yeah, stick shifts are much more fun to drive
(except in stop-n-go traffic)
For drag racing (bracket racing) they say automatics are much more consistent so they work better.
For road racing / HPDE, I think a manual is the only way to go unless you want to manually shift the auto. I ran an automatic at a HPDE and was getting killed by "slower" cars because I could not get on the power coming out of corners. It would want to downshift at the wrong time/place. When it would downshift, it was like it took a deep breath first which sort of unloaded the chassis.
This was my first time on the track so I did not want to fool with trying to manually downshift/upshift. I was afraid with the stock shifter I would throw it into Neutral.
I also got high trans temp warnings about 3/4 through each session. Yes that could be solved with a transmission cooler...
I drove my 6 speed on the track the other day and I had much more control of the car, shifted when I wanted, and powered through and out of corners much better than the A4.
Just my observations.
Oh yeah, stick shifts are much more fun to drive
(except in stop-n-go traffic)
Safety Car
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From: Stoney Creek Ontario
but, I just like the automatics, lazy in my old age I guess.....
Pro
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I'm 28 and have owned a 99 Automatic coupe.
It has changed at how I look at an Automatic sports car. The Automatic was SO Much FUN! When you have 350 hp under your foot you dont need a manual as an excuse for fun. Although I love driving a manual is smaller lighter cars ..... when I get my next vette it will probably be AUTO again....
It has changed at how I look at an Automatic sports car. The Automatic was SO Much FUN! When you have 350 hp under your foot you dont need a manual as an excuse for fun. Although I love driving a manual is smaller lighter cars ..... when I get my next vette it will probably be AUTO again....
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There is a 1-4 feature in my '03 that I don't like. When I'm in first and my speed is between 24-34kph, I have to shift into 4th gear, it locks out the 2nd and 3rd gear. But once I get into fourth, I can down shift.
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I'm not talking about the CAGS, I am talking about shifting second to third at high RPMs.
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For normal around town driving I would go with an auto.
For drag racing (bracket racing) they say automatics are much more consistent so they work better.
For road racing / HPDE, I think a manual is the only way to go unless you want to manually shift the auto. I ran an automatic at a HPDE and was getting killed by "slower" cars because I could not get on the power coming out of corners. It would want to downshift at the wrong time/place. When it would downshift, it was like it took a deep breath first which sort of unloaded the chassis.
This was my first time on the track so I did not want to fool with trying to manually downshift/upshift. I was afraid with the stock shifter I would throw it into Neutral.
I also got high trans temp warnings about 3/4 through each session. Yes that could be solved with a transmission cooler...
I drove my 6 speed on the track the other day and I had much more control of the car, shifted when I wanted, and powered through and out of corners much better than the A4.
Just my observations.
Oh yeah, stick shifts are much more fun to drive
(except in stop-n-go traffic)
For drag racing (bracket racing) they say automatics are much more consistent so they work better.
For road racing / HPDE, I think a manual is the only way to go unless you want to manually shift the auto. I ran an automatic at a HPDE and was getting killed by "slower" cars because I could not get on the power coming out of corners. It would want to downshift at the wrong time/place. When it would downshift, it was like it took a deep breath first which sort of unloaded the chassis.
This was my first time on the track so I did not want to fool with trying to manually downshift/upshift. I was afraid with the stock shifter I would throw it into Neutral.
I also got high trans temp warnings about 3/4 through each session. Yes that could be solved with a transmission cooler...
I drove my 6 speed on the track the other day and I had much more control of the car, shifted when I wanted, and powered through and out of corners much better than the A4.
Just my observations.
Oh yeah, stick shifts are much more fun to drive
(except in stop-n-go traffic)
Pro
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From: Richmond Hill Ontario
I've had 1 auto (80 ZZ4) and 2 sticks (6-speed 1992 & 2002). IMO the stick beats an auto for driving pleasure, particularly with some Quad-oval Borlas. I find that the 1st and 2nd ratios are too close and I'll typically shift from 1 to 3 for quick getaways. Just my 2 cents.
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From: Maple
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there are two more 02 black verts i am waiting for pictures of...one has 30 000km the other about 34 000km both have cat backs systems..32 000 and 29 900 respectively..
find me the same cars up here at that price and i will buy it...
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW
3. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1759781
there are two more 02 black verts i am waiting for pictures of...one has 30 000km the other about 34 000km both have cat backs systems..32 000 and 29 900 respectively..
find me the same cars up here at that price and i will buy it...
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Mike, you're going nuts right now, but be patient. Find the right Vette for the right price.
You don't have to find one this Summer. If it comes along next Spring, then so be it. Don't buy something you don't really want and don't get ripped off.
Good Luck Man, Loscoe Res
You don't have to find one this Summer. If it comes along next Spring, then so be it. Don't buy something you don't really want and don't get ripped off.
Good Luck Man, Loscoe Res
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