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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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I do support the Make a Wish and Children's hospital. I buy the cancer research and princess margaret lottery tickets (have yet to win anything on those), local fireman and police charity, and the animal rescue charities.


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Is it me or does it seem like charities are now aggressively pursuing us on the forums? Don't get me wrong, they are all worthy causes. But c'mon. My dollar can only go so far. Bad enough that they call all day long, and my emails are inundated with requests, not to mention what comes in my snail mail, then all the handouts on the streets. It's like once you make 1 charitable donation, they all come after you for more. And when you don't give, they all try to guilt you into giving. What's up with that?

At least, on here, they are enticing us with Corvette shows, Corvette track days, Corvette raffles, etc, etc, etc.

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EDIT: I should explain, that I received a bunch of letters today asking for money and it kinda irked me, hence the rant.

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeeman28a
... It's like once you make 1 charitable donation, they all come after you for more...
The key is to resist giving to the first one in the first place

The charities don't bother me as much as telemarketer
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Agreed, I buy many of the hospital lotteries as well, I notice that St Judes is the charity of choice here (they do some wonderful things there !!), does the Canada section have a charity that they favour?

Just curious
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by desi
The key is to resist giving to the first one in the first place

The charities don't bother me as much as telemarketer
Once they get you, it's too late. But there is a fine line difference between a charity and a telemarketer. The charity is looking for money for a cause. The telemarketer is looking for money for a product. But they go about trying to get the money in the same manner. Probably because telemarketers also work for the charities.

My mom donates to a battered womens shelter every six months for the past 25 years or so. She gives what she can. Usually $100. Well this year, they've started calling her. She gets about 1 call a week. Normally, after a few weeks, she lets her phone go to voicemail. I happened to pick up one of these calls a couple of weeks ago.

There was a guy on the phone basically asking for money for the same battered women's shelter. I told him my mom is already giving twice a year. The guy actually had the nerve to say she could always give more. I just said whatever. He then ask if I would like to donate. I declined. He then has the nerve to say to me, Oh, you like beating on women. By this time I got fed up with this guy, told him to F Off and hung up the phone.

Most are nice on the phone, but then you get a******* like this. So you tell me, what's the difference?

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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I am writing this at 11:45PM India local time as it is raining and the frogs are making a racket by the property - it's monsoon season here.

I used to run a golf tournament with some friends for Princess Margaret Hospital Foundation for Breast Cancer. As I knew many people touched by this it was a good chance to "pay it forward". This was not sponsored by any companies but I leveraged my connections in IT for prizes and Silent Auction things. In our last year we had 120 players and gave $15,000 to the PMHF. We kept none of it.

Now things have changed dramatically in our lives and I didn't really want to raise this but I feel the need to. As some of my closer friends and colleagues have heard (from me), I had some really bad news on my return to India last month. My bro' was diagnosed with inoperable cancer. He may have months to live (hopefully more). We have had no history of this malevolent disease in our family until now. It has brought us closer together after being apart forever. We talk every day as he seems to grow weaker. We have made great peace after years of absence and I know that my trip to Canada next month will include a visit to him. Mom and Bonnie are there in Montreal helping him out as much as possible. There is little we can do and I feel powerless most days because of this. I know I have to be there and I will soon to see him (just some more weeks) so please don't give me a tough time of going right now.

The point to my rant is that these diseases can touch us all in one way or another. Guy (my bro's name), was never a smoker or drinker. He is more like a foodie but eats rather healthy. We never thought this would hit us and it is hitting us pretty hard to think of mortality. Consider this the next time you can help a cause and weigh the consequences when you can and should give. Most of them are great and someday, they may help save one of your loved ones lives.

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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my advise is pick a couple of charities & give an amount that makes ya feel warm/fuzzy & decline to give to all the rest.

the number of charities these days can be overhelming - imagine if ya won the lottery ...egads lol
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Originally Posted by SilverSurferC6
I am writing this at 11:45PM India local time as it is raining and the frogs are making a racket by the property - it's monsoon season here.

I used to run a golf tournament with some friends for Princess Margaret Hospital Foundation for Breast Cancer. As I knew many people touched by this it was a good chance to "pay it forward". This was not sponsored by any companies but I leveraged my connections in IT for prizes and Silent Auction things. In our last year we had 120 players and gave $15,000 to the PMHF. We kept none of it.

Now things have changed dramatically in our lives and I didn't really want to raise this but I feel the need to. As some of my closer friends and colleagues have heard (from me), I had some really bad news on my return to India last month. My bro' was diagnosed with inoperable cancer. He may have months to live (hopefully more). We have had no history of this malevolent disease in our family until now. It has brought us closer together after being apart forever. We talk every day as he seems to grow weaker. We have made great peace after years of absence and I know that my trip to Canada next month will include a visit to him. Mom and Bonnie are there in Montreal helping him out as much as possible. There is little we can do and I feel powerless most days because of this. I know I have to be there and I will soon to see him (just some more weeks) so please don't give me a tough time of going right now.

The point to my rant is that these diseases can touch us all in one way or another. Guy (my bro's name), was never a smoker or drinker. He is more like a foodie but eats rather healthy. We never thought this would hit us and it is hitting us pretty hard to think of mortality. Consider this the next time you can help a cause and weigh the consequences when you can and should give. Most of them are great and someday, they may help save one of your loved ones lives.
I have been down your road and it never gets easy, take a deep breath you will get through this ,as for the giving i give to the charity that has afected my life the most.
all the best to you, your family,your brother

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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give what you can,do not let it overwelm you,there are lots of people giving their fortunes away,albeit slowly,but every bit helps.My father used to say charity begins at home,little did he know how right he was,for the world is all our home.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSurferC6
I am writing this at 11:45PM India local time as it is raining and the frogs are making a racket by the property - it's monsoon season here.

I used to run a golf tournament with some friends for Princess Margaret Hospital Foundation for Breast Cancer. As I knew many people touched by this it was a good chance to "pay it forward". This was not sponsored by any companies but I leveraged my connections in IT for prizes and Silent Auction things. In our last year we had 120 players and gave $15,000 to the PMHF. We kept none of it.

Now things have changed dramatically in our lives and I didn't really want to raise this but I feel the need to. As some of my closer friends and colleagues have heard (from me), I had some really bad news on my return to India last month. My bro' was diagnosed with inoperable cancer. He may have months to live (hopefully more). We have had no history of this malevolent disease in our family until now. It has brought us closer together after being apart forever. We talk every day as he seems to grow weaker. We have made great peace after years of absence and I know that my trip to Canada next month will include a visit to him. Mom and Bonnie are there in Montreal helping him out as much as possible. There is little we can do and I feel powerless most days because of this. I know I have to be there and I will soon to see him (just some more weeks) so please don't give me a tough time of going right now.

The point to my rant is that these diseases can touch us all in one way or another. Guy (my bro's name), was never a smoker or drinker. He is more like a foodie but eats rather healthy. We never thought this would hit us and it is hitting us pretty hard to think of mortality. Consider this the next time you can help a cause and weigh the consequences when you can and should give. Most of them are great and someday, they may help save one of your loved ones lives.
Pierre I've posted this before regarding cancer, this may help your brother, but you will have to push the doctors to prescribe this drug.
It is available and has been tested for other mitochondrial disorders and it works.

If anybody would like a charity to contribute to this would be the one.
All the drug companies refused to fund the clinical trials. Surprise Surprise.

http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=8153

Regards

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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And you all missed the point of my OP.

I'm not saying don't give. We have to. The issue is not money either. This issue I put forward is how they hound you at every step. You give once to one charity and they all seem to be calling you for money. And now it seems to be coming onto the forum.

That was my point.
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And you all missed the point of my OP.

I'm not saying don't give. We have to. The issue is not money either. This issue I put forward is how they hound you at every step. You give once to one charity and they all seem to be calling you for money. And now it seems to be coming onto the forum.

That was my point.
you ought to sign up for a membership,say at the ROM,and then complaining about charities would be non-existent, I think they called for 8 yrs after,4-6 times per year,sheese.I have never been hounded by a charity? Maybe not enough money,hmmmmm,Stan how much did you say you are worth,
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Originally Posted by Zeeman28a
And you all missed the point of my OP.

I'm not saying don't give. We have to. The issue is not money either. This issue I put forward is how they hound you at every step. You give once to one charity and they all seem to be calling you for money. And now it seems to be coming onto the forum.

That was my point.
Once you donate, they are all over you for years.

When donating, you should check to see what portion of every dollar goes to administration and what portion actually goes to the cause.
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Maybe not enough money, hmmmmm, Stan how much did you say you are worth?
No comment.
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Once you donate, they are all over you for years.

When donating, you should check to see what portion of every dollar goes to administration and what portion actually goes to the cause.
Yeah, isn't that ridiculous. Some of them are more than 50% administrative.
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I knew a guy that quit the trades,over 30 yrs ago to work for the united way as a volunteer,about fell off the floor when I seen him 10-12 years ago and he told me his "volunteer position" paid 65k a year.
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.My father used to say charity begins at home,little did he know how right he was,for the world is all our home. [/QUOTE]

Absolutely!
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Originally Posted by Mad*Max
Once you donate, they are all over you for years.

When donating, you should check to see what portion of every dollar goes to administration and what portion actually goes to the cause.
That is my major pet peeve with charities you don't know how much it actually going to the cause.

I watched a documentary a while back and some of the those help the children charities, big names too, they advertise on TV, well they keep 90% or more for "administrative" costs, and I am not kidding either. What a scam, somebody should be slapped in the beek
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Many non-profit organizations use a 3rd party company for collecting donations... especially when it comes to telemarketing. These companies keep around 70 cents for each dollar they collect so they're usually aggressive to get your money.

I volunteer a lot of my time with my local area SAR team so I was a little surprised when I received a call from a telemarketer asking for donations for my team. I told them that I'm an active member and yet they kept on insisting that I pony up. WTF!
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I agree, it has become way too much these days. Our money only goes so far and I have to be selective with who I will support. The problem is that everybody can provide a worth while reason to be supporting their particular charity - they all have some kind of merit.
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As someone who *needs* help (I must live on my Fed. Disablity Pension... $9,000/yr.) let me remind you NOT to give anything to the March of Dimes!

My wheelchair needed about $300 in repairs, and I applied to the March of Dimes.

The hoops they make you jump through to get *partial* funding are unbelieveable! Just unreal. IF you finally get approval, you gotta wait forever to get a cheque.

I gave up, (they hoped I would) and my poor Church had to pick up the tab.
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