If I was caught doing MORE than 150 kmph in a 100 zone, I would expect the fine to be a little harsh...
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05/05/2010 10:17 AM EDT
Police kick off project to E.R.A.S.E. street racing
Police units from across the province kicked off project E.R.A.S.E. in an effort to put the brakes on speeders and other dangerous forms of diving.
At the MTO complex near Keele Street and Highway 401 Wednesday morning, officers kicked off project E.R.A.S.E., which stands for Eliminate Racing Activity on Streets Everywhere.
At the event today, officials displayed twisted wrecks to highlight speed's deadly reality.
Police want to remind the public that any driver caught going more than 50 kilometres per hour over the speed limit will be fined under harsh laws.
Police want drivers to know that street racing is illegal and jeopardizes innocent lives.
05/05/2010 10:17 AM EDT
Police kick off project to E.R.A.S.E. street racing
Police units from across the province kicked off project E.R.A.S.E. in an effort to put the brakes on speeders and other dangerous forms of diving.
At the MTO complex near Keele Street and Highway 401 Wednesday morning, officers kicked off project E.R.A.S.E., which stands for Eliminate Racing Activity on Streets Everywhere.
At the event today, officials displayed twisted wrecks to highlight speed's deadly reality.
Police want to remind the public that any driver caught going more than 50 kilometres per hour over the speed limit will be fined under harsh laws.
Police want drivers to know that street racing is illegal and jeopardizes innocent lives.
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*LATEST NEWS
05/05/2010 10:17 AM EDT
Police kick off project to E.R.A.S.E. street racing
Police units from across the province kicked off project E.R.A.S.E. in an effort to put the brakes on speeders and other dangerous forms of diving.
At the MTO complex near Keele Street and Highway 401 Wednesday morning, officers kicked off project E.R.A.S.E., which stands for Eliminate Racing Activity on Streets Everywhere.
At the event today, officials displayed twisted wrecks to highlight speed's deadly reality.
Police want to remind the public that any driver caught going more than 50 kilometres per hour over the speed limit will be fined under harsh laws.
Police want drivers to know that street racing is illegal and jeopardizes innocent lives.
05/05/2010 10:17 AM EDT
Police kick off project to E.R.A.S.E. street racing
Police units from across the province kicked off project E.R.A.S.E. in an effort to put the brakes on speeders and other dangerous forms of diving.
At the MTO complex near Keele Street and Highway 401 Wednesday morning, officers kicked off project E.R.A.S.E., which stands for Eliminate Racing Activity on Streets Everywhere.
At the event today, officials displayed twisted wrecks to highlight speed's deadly reality.
Police want to remind the public that any driver caught going more than 50 kilometres per hour over the speed limit will be fined under harsh laws.
Police want drivers to know that street racing is illegal and jeopardizes innocent lives.
" is for.I don't see anything wrong with what they are doing?
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Can we also aim to get below-the-limit drivers out of the left lane, because they raise my blood pressure on a daily basis. That can't be good for my health or well being? 
(or anybody else I talk to who complain of the same issue) ...
The "ERASE" program has been out for years. Nothing new. The INTENT is actually good ... try to educate people about the down-side of street racing, while promoting the safe (and legal) alternatives, ie: drag strips and race tracks. Fortunately, most of the people around here (specifically, this board) seem well aware of the various track opportunities out there. Unfortunately, the general public do not
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(or anybody else I talk to who complain of the same issue) ...The "ERASE" program has been out for years. Nothing new. The INTENT is actually good ... try to educate people about the down-side of street racing, while promoting the safe (and legal) alternatives, ie: drag strips and race tracks. Fortunately, most of the people around here (specifically, this board) seem well aware of the various track opportunities out there. Unfortunately, the general public do not
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Can we also aim to get below-the-limit drivers out of the left lane, because they raise my blood pressure on a daily basis. That can't be good for my health or well being? (or anybody else I talk to who complain of the same issue) ...
The "ERASE" program has been out for years. Nothing new. The INTENT is actually good ... try to educate people about the down-side of street racing, while promoting the safe (and legal) alternatives, ie: drag strips and race tracks. Fortunately, most of the people around here (specifically, this board) seem well aware of the various track opportunities out there. Unfortunately, the general public do not.
(or anybody else I talk to who complain of the same issue) ...The "ERASE" program has been out for years. Nothing new. The INTENT is actually good ... try to educate people about the down-side of street racing, while promoting the safe (and legal) alternatives, ie: drag strips and race tracks. Fortunately, most of the people around here (specifically, this board) seem well aware of the various track opportunities out there. Unfortunately, the general public do not
.Hardly the case...
it was and is a make busy project...has no use today and simply continues to engineer social thoughts on things that don't exist.
These guys have been known to pick the lowest hanging fruit time and time again...hence the mass bookings pulling in and out of established strips and tracks! There IS NO safe haven!!
That is also why the things that drive people NUTS (poor left lane skills, signalling, etc) has proliferated. This program will not even put a tiny dent in that or anything else.
I'm sick and tired of being turning into a bad person because I drive a car and being taxed to death under the guise of someone doing something for me or trying to save me from myself.
End of rant.
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Going to make myself sparse for a week or so 
Thanks for the headsup, this happens every spring and like I said before it goes on for a week or so then they go back to the doughnut shops
Thanks for the headsup, this happens every spring and like I said before it goes on for a week or so then they go back to the doughnut shops
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Drifting
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Probably save more lives if they spent as much money/effort educating drivers about cyclists/bikers and stopping them from getting run over. Not as dramatic though, crushed bikes and motorcycles don't scare people.
Be nice to see some statistics that show total deaths caused by street racing, cycle accidents, pedestrian hits, motorcycle/car collisions and falling down stairs to see which is worse. Might have to eliminate 2 storey homes and basements though.
Be nice to see some statistics that show total deaths caused by street racing, cycle accidents, pedestrian hits, motorcycle/car collisions and falling down stairs to see which is worse. Might have to eliminate 2 storey homes and basements though.
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I wonder if they'll be crushing the majority of street racing vehicles ; minivans probably, I wonder why they will never give the statistics of the ages of the drivers or the vehicle makes they catch going 50 over.
One more thing, take a cruise in the left lane of the 401 or the 410 southbound at any time during the day and note how close you are to "stunt driving"
One more thing, take a cruise in the left lane of the 401 or the 410 southbound at any time during the day and note how close you are to "stunt driving"
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Back in 2007 ... I wrote this thread ....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/cana...tatistics.html
Let me highlight a couple of interesting facts ... when I wrote that thread, the most current data set available for analysis was 2004 (ORSA : Ministry of Transportation) http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/orsar/orsar06/ - which, as of today, displays the most upto date data set, as being 2006.
So in 2007 (working with 2004 data) the reported number of persons deaths per year, attributed to "Street Racing" was 5.8 deaths per year (1999 - 2004 : 35 deaths)
Now in 2010, it is being reported (Project ERASE - http://www.yrp.ca/erase/ ), that 13 additional people have died due to "Street Racing" (4.3 deaths per year).
This means that in the three years between 2007 and 2010 ... "Street Racing" related deaths have declined by 25.9%.
Did this decline in deaths have anything to do with the new "Street Racing" Law? Well since the most recent ORSA data set is from 2006 ... then we can not attribute any decline to the new law, but from what ever was being done before it's enactment between 2004 and 2006.
Mark
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/cana...tatistics.html
Let me highlight a couple of interesting facts ... when I wrote that thread, the most current data set available for analysis was 2004 (ORSA : Ministry of Transportation) http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/orsar/orsar06/ - which, as of today, displays the most upto date data set, as being 2006.
So in 2007 (working with 2004 data) the reported number of persons deaths per year, attributed to "Street Racing" was 5.8 deaths per year (1999 - 2004 : 35 deaths)
Now in 2010, it is being reported (Project ERASE - http://www.yrp.ca/erase/ ), that 13 additional people have died due to "Street Racing" (4.3 deaths per year).
This means that in the three years between 2007 and 2010 ... "Street Racing" related deaths have declined by 25.9%.
Did this decline in deaths have anything to do with the new "Street Racing" Law? Well since the most recent ORSA data set is from 2006 ... then we can not attribute any decline to the new law, but from what ever was being done before it's enactment between 2004 and 2006.
Mark
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They did. After the first year of your new "street racing" law, the demographic with the most 50+ km/h offenses was the 65+ crowd. I think it was like 55-60%. The (white male) under 24 group was one of the lowest. And yes, minivans ranked quite high too.
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I read that in the US, a number of States (7 or 8) are going to get really harsh with left-lane slow pokes. They're finding it's a become a real problem with people doing the speed limit in the left lane obstructing traffic just because they think they're Mr(s) DoRight.
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Fine me, suspend me, issue me a court summons, taze me, beat me to a bloody pulp, arrest me if you have to. Whatever. I'm all for that. It's the "seizure" part of the law I have a issues with.
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^ ^ Presumed guilty and punished for it before having your day in court. That's the bitch of it. You lose your car and your license for 7-days, without recourse, and potentially on subjective evidence (a radar gun isn't subjective, but an officer's "opinion" of what defines a "race" or "intention to break traction" is).
Also, while many/most will probably disagree with me, I see nothing "dangerous" or "scary" about ~150 km/h. If it weren't for the law, I would probably cruise (comfortably) between ~180 and 200 km/h on a routine basis. Just saying.
... also, it depends on the volume of traffic, obviously!!
Also, while many/most will probably disagree with me, I see nothing "dangerous" or "scary" about ~150 km/h. If it weren't for the law, I would probably cruise (comfortably) between ~180 and 200 km/h on a routine basis. Just saying
.... also, it depends on the volume of traffic, obviously!!
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150 in 60/70/80kph zones is dangerous. Hence the street racing law. It's not so much you, it's what's around you that gets you into trouble.
Kids playing in the street, bicyclists, other drivers backing out of driveways and not looking, drivers running yellow/red lights and the big one, inexperienced drivers that are driving these high performance cars. The list can go on and on.
Our cars are designed for high speed driving. We just need someplace reasonably safe to do it. Hence, that is what track days are for.
Kids playing in the street, bicyclists, other drivers backing out of driveways and not looking, drivers running yellow/red lights and the big one, inexperienced drivers that are driving these high performance cars. The list can go on and on.
Our cars are designed for high speed driving. We just need someplace reasonably safe to do it. Hence, that is what track days are for.
Drifting
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. I live in a 40km/h school zone ... obviously that's not the place for doing ~150! 
(although some people really push the envelope ... there are a few easily doing 50-over more frequently than you'd like to think ).
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What are the stats on the unrestricted speed part of the autobahn, I bet it is pretty safe or they would impose limits.
That said no way heil would I near a unrestricted speed hwy with the drivers around here
That said no way heil would I near a unrestricted speed hwy with the drivers around here