Black Car Owners Please Chime in
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Black Car Owners Please Chime in
I've looked at a couple of black vettes to purchase and is it the car or the owner regarding the spiral marks? It looks to me like the car was dirty and someone washed it but didn't get all the dirt off and buffed it.
It doesn't look like it is in the paint but rather just the clear coat. Is this just normal for a black car and can this be fixed so you can't see these spiral marks anymore?
In the right lighting under perfect conditions, I could see spiral marks on my silver vette but are these spiral marks just accentuated on black?
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It doesn't look like it is in the paint but rather just the clear coat. Is this just normal for a black car and can this be fixed so you can't see these spiral marks anymore?
In the right lighting under perfect conditions, I could see spiral marks on my silver vette but are these spiral marks just accentuated on black?
Thanks
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Le Mans Master
These marks are commonly known as swirls or as you put it, spiral marks or even spider webbing....
They are typically due to improper washing and drying technique and dragging dirt particles from the wash mitt or drying towels accross the paint thus rubbing the particles into the clear and creating a micro scratch. Do this enough times and you've got swirls.
Yes, they are very acksentuated in black and other darker and solid colors such as red and blue are probably the worst.
Only way to get them out of the Corvette hard clear coat is with the high speed rotary buffer. An orbital will just take way too long, it's not worth the time.
The way to keep them out is by utilizing the two bucket washing technique as well as blow drying the car with a leaf blower and making sure your materials are very very clean...
Josh
They are typically due to improper washing and drying technique and dragging dirt particles from the wash mitt or drying towels accross the paint thus rubbing the particles into the clear and creating a micro scratch. Do this enough times and you've got swirls.
Yes, they are very acksentuated in black and other darker and solid colors such as red and blue are probably the worst.
Only way to get them out of the Corvette hard clear coat is with the high speed rotary buffer. An orbital will just take way too long, it's not worth the time.
The way to keep them out is by utilizing the two bucket washing technique as well as blow drying the car with a leaf blower and making sure your materials are very very clean...
Josh
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It is both the owner and the color. Black is the worst, but as you said, you can even see them on silver, you just have to look harder.
Use this as a bargaining chip when purchasing, then find someone who really knows what they are doing with a rotary. You will be amazed at what can be accomplished with the correct knowledge and products.
Use this as a bargaining chip when purchasing, then find someone who really knows what they are doing with a rotary. You will be amazed at what can be accomplished with the correct knowledge and products.
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That's common practice with some dealers unfortunitely......After a couple of washes, suddenly the car looks different in the sunlight.....
Do your homework and check out one owner cars. The market is usually softer in the winter time. Avoid middlemen (dealers) when ever possible......
Good luck......
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Single stage paints like black, yellow, and red will reflect more and thus amplify imperfections. What is clear, is proper maintenance and prep will have most black cars looking great with just a little time and upkeep. I firmly believe proper washing and drying techniques can remove alot of the swirls common on car paint.
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These marks are commonly known as swirls or as you put it, spiral marks or even spider webbing....
They are typically due to improper washing and drying technique and dragging dirt particles from the wash mitt or drying towels accross the paint thus rubbing the particles into the clear and creating a micro scratch. Do this enough times and you've got swirls.
Yes, they are very acksentuated in black and other darker and solid colors such as red and blue are probably the worst.
Only way to get them out of the Corvette hard clear coat is with the high speed rotary buffer. An orbital will just take way too long, it's not worth the time.
The way to keep them out is by utilizing the two bucket washing technique as well as blow drying the car with a leaf blower and making sure your materials are very very clean...
Josh
They are typically due to improper washing and drying technique and dragging dirt particles from the wash mitt or drying towels accross the paint thus rubbing the particles into the clear and creating a micro scratch. Do this enough times and you've got swirls.
Yes, they are very acksentuated in black and other darker and solid colors such as red and blue are probably the worst.
Only way to get them out of the Corvette hard clear coat is with the high speed rotary buffer. An orbital will just take way too long, it's not worth the time.
The way to keep them out is by utilizing the two bucket washing technique as well as blow drying the car with a leaf blower and making sure your materials are very very clean...
Josh
Chances are it can be fixed with a rotary in the hands of a skilled detailer. It can be kept nice by using the 2 bucket method of washing and using the proper towels and maintenance techniques.
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Be careful with some showroom cars. Many of them have been buffed with glaze products and waxed to hide the true paint surface.......
That's common practice with some dealers unfortunitely......After a couple of washes, suddenly the car looks different in the sunlight.....
Do your homework and check out one owner cars. The market is usually softer in the winter time. Avoid middlemen (dealers) when ever possible......
Good luck......
That's common practice with some dealers unfortunitely......After a couple of washes, suddenly the car looks different in the sunlight.....
Do your homework and check out one owner cars. The market is usually softer in the winter time. Avoid middlemen (dealers) when ever possible......
Good luck......
The problem with avoiding dealers is 80% trade them in due to not wanting to go through the trouble of selling them on their own. If only it was illegal to trade in black vettes, I'd be set
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Single stage paints like black, yellow, and red will reflect more and thus amplify imperfections. What is clear, is proper maintenance and prep will have most black cars looking great with just a little time and upkeep. I firmly believe proper washing and drying techniques can remove alot of the swirls common on car paint.