I wasn't sure where to post this and I didn't want to hijack any other thread but I have been watching EBAY for a used PC and have not seen one of these for sale out there.

I was thinking about buying one but I wasn't sure about making the investment as I'm not sure if it would be something I would use all the time so I was interested in a used one.

Does anyone out on the forum here have one that they aren't using and would like to get rid of or a used one that they would be willing to part with?

Sorry if this doesn't fit here, but it didn't seem right to put it in the Parts Section.

 

i also might find that an interesting proposition

 

I just ordered a new one for $105 shipped

 

Where did you find that deal? hook a brotha up.....

 

The PC is getting harder to find now that B/D bought Porter Cable and rumored it could be phased out. It was pulled from most retailers. We offer it new, and I highly suggest a kit for best value. If you purchase these cheaper units, you will still need backing plate, pads and polishes at the least. Also remember the warranty, and its validity if sold by Ebay or non-approved PC vendor.

 

 

Autogeek has some deals going on right now on the PC and PC packages.

 

I looked on there and seen the deals BUT they are package deals for the PC with pads and product. I need JUST the PC.

 

Porter-Cable $129

 

I bought one a few months back off of Ebay...BRAND NEW in the box "$90.00"

 

I just ordered a Flex today (about $300) and I have a PC in like new condition with the metal case and all the unused accessories from Griot's. If the Flex works out, I may be willing to part with the PC, but probably will not know for about a week or so. Need to see if this Flex works first.

 

Ok I PM'd the members above who requested info on the PC @ $105 shipped and also replied to many others...if you want information please PM one of them.

At any price the PC is a great tool and if I had known our vendors here sold them as stand alones (with out a kit) then I would've purchased from them.

I'm now going to buy a detail kit from one of them as I need to stock up on most my products anyhow

 

Not all bad came from it. in the link that was posted for AUTOGEEK I found some pretty cool carpet brushes that go to the PC that I did not know they carried that I have to have. I also looked and did not see any that were just the PC. I guess we both missed it!!

 

Choreo, I would be interested in hearing your experience with the Flex polisher as I am considering purchasing one also.

 

we are glad you visited the site, and there are many items you will need for your buffer. Edge pads come with an adapter and dual sided. Otherwise you will want a flexible backing plate and Wolfgang pads at least. The brushes are cool too ...

I did not think to note that we sold the machine alone, as I thought you saw it and felt the price difference wasnt justified. We do try and keep them as low as possible, and our no hassle return is usually worth any extra $$. Dealing with manufacturers is not always fun ....

Please note we do carry the UDM (Ultimate Detailing Machine) also to others looking for a compatible product. Its a little stronger, but not as time tested as the PC.

 

Flex arrived today - should be testing in a couple days!

 

 

Finally got around to trying out the Flex today. Just as well that I waited as two cats got in a fight on my hood yesterday and in a few seconds they managed to scratch almost every square inch of it - I really thought I was going to have to repaint the hood this time! Damn worthless cats.

At first impression, I am very impressed with the Flex. Definitely has much more power than the PC that I have used many times over the past few years. With the PC it was pretty easy to stop the spinning of the pad just by applying a small amount of pressure and it would also slow itself down when coming in contact with ridges like in the center of the hood. I could not stop the Flex no matter how much pressure I applied.

Although I am not sure about the actual offset specs, the Flex "feels" like it has a much shorter "throw" from the center of rotation (i.e. it "feels" more like a standard rotary buffer with maybe shorter "random" strokes)?

I was able to remove all the cat-claw scratches in one set of passes and was even able to remove some deeper scratches that the PC could not touch the last few times using the same pad and polish.

The PC also allowed you to spin the pad by hand when powered off - the Flex is rigid and cannot be spun by hand.

I also really like the fact the I can let up on the trigger and the speed slows down incrementally - so the dial only sets a maximum speed with the trigger fully depressed. I have always hated the switch on top of my PC.

The front handle on the flex is also a better design than the side handle on the PC (although the Flex also ships with an optional side handle). I finally removed my handle altogether on the PC a couple years ago, but your left hand is "cooking" by the time you are done using my PC.

The sound level of the Flex is also a bit less and much smoother. There was much more "vibration" with the PC - in other words you could tell it was orbiting "randomly" - I did not get that "feeling" with the Flex - it "felt" and looked again more like a rotary pattern being laid down.

After using the Flex, the PC now feels like something designed to apply wax with. I have used PCs for 7 years and they did a good job both for the price and were very "safe" to use, but this Flex unit doesn't play around as much - it gets with the program! You would have to really work at it to mess up your paint with a PC, but the Flex feels like you could maybe do some damage if you got carried away - but you would have to just not be paying attention.

I also like the fact that I can lay the Flex on it's back and it stays in position when trying to attach a microfiber bonnet, PC always wants to fall to its side.

I think both units weight about the same in actuality, but the Flex "feels" a little heavier to be probably due to weight distribution?

So far, I would have to give it an "Excellent" review based on design, performance and results. Don't think I will be going back to the PC anytime soon. That is not a put down at all - the Flex is just in a different league IMO (for the price difference it had better be)!

 

That common problem is because you don't have the little washer installed in between the PC and the backing plate. That provides enough gap so the machine will not slow down when applying pressure.
It should come inside the plastic bag with the instructions. Your PC will act like a totally different animal after you install the washer.....

Good luck......