Car Soap?
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Melting Slicks
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Car Soap?
Is there really any difference and if so, what do you use? I have used several and I forgot what I have at home but, I am going through..getting new and getting rid of the other stuff. Well some of it...but, I want a whole new batch of product to work on my new vette. It is red and most of my other cars were metallics, gray so, I want to have what works best on red.
Thanks!
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Soaps are not all the same, different ones for different purposes.
I really like Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss, when use in correct ratios it clean with limited degradation of the LSP, and limited mechanical washing.
You can use Dawn, but that will likely strip all waxes and most sealants from the paint, great for prepping for polishing and then just before your LSP.
My criteria for soap is does it sud very well, long cling time, excellent lubricity, and cleaning with out use of mechanical action.
1Z perls is a very gentle soap that is great for cleaning light build ups.
Most soaps at the auto store are just okay compared with others you can buy online.
Cheers,
GREG
I really like Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss, when use in correct ratios it clean with limited degradation of the LSP, and limited mechanical washing.
You can use Dawn, but that will likely strip all waxes and most sealants from the paint, great for prepping for polishing and then just before your LSP.
My criteria for soap is does it sud very well, long cling time, excellent lubricity, and cleaning with out use of mechanical action.
1Z perls is a very gentle soap that is great for cleaning light build ups.
Most soaps at the auto store are just okay compared with others you can buy online.
Cheers,
GREG
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You want the best and most versatile soaps, then consider:
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
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Melting Slicks
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You want the best and most versatile soaps, then consider:
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
Probably do optimums however I was thinking of buying the Wolfgang kit which came with their car wash? How is that? Also I put in an order today on your site and got a free thing of pinnacle wash....what are your thoughts on the pinnacle?
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I did not see duraglos on your site....did I miss it?
Probably do optimums however I was thinking of buying the Wolfgang kit which came with their car wash? How is that? Also I put in an order today on your site and got a free thing of pinnacle wash....what are your thoughts on the pinnacle?
Probably do optimums however I was thinking of buying the Wolfgang kit which came with their car wash? How is that? Also I put in an order today on your site and got a free thing of pinnacle wash....what are your thoughts on the pinnacle?
http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss.html
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There is a difference. OTC stuff is usually just ok.
I really love Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss.
Great stuff for stripping or for washing.
Long story short, and don't laugh, I washed my red Toro lawn tractor with it and it came out squeaky clean. (And yes, I then buffed it out with m105 and m205 and applied a sealant as well...two coats...lol)
I really love Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss.
Great stuff for stripping or for washing.
Long story short, and don't laugh, I washed my red Toro lawn tractor with it and it came out squeaky clean. (And yes, I then buffed it out with m105 and m205 and applied a sealant as well...two coats...lol)
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Pinnacle and Wolfgang make great soaps and work extremely well within their respective lines. The ones listed above are most versatile and most popular products within the AG offerings.
http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss.html
Duragloss Line
http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss.html
Duragloss Line
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The Zaino Z7 concentrated car wash does a great job. Makes lots of suds and a bottle lasts forever. It really leaves the surface very clean.
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My criteria for a good quality car wash concentrate; surface lubrication (to minimize marring), dirt encapsulation (it must contain a surfactant), a slightly alkaline pH around 8.0 (if it’s too alkaline it will strip the LSP) it should also contain a balanced blend of active biodegradable ingredients.
Some Product Suggestions- because Souveran was designed purely as a show car wax, for the best results use the Pinnacle Soap and the Crystal Mist Spray or Souveran Spray Wax separately for best results.
For polymer sealants- 1z einszett Perls, Griot's Garage Car Wash, Swissvax Car Bathe or Zaino Z-7 Car Wash
Some Product Suggestions- because Souveran was designed purely as a show car wax, for the best results use the Pinnacle Soap and the Crystal Mist Spray or Souveran Spray Wax separately for best results.
For polymer sealants- 1z einszett Perls, Griot's Garage Car Wash, Swissvax Car Bathe or Zaino Z-7 Car Wash
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So can you use Optimums like a regular car soap? It shows directions for adding to your car and for using as No rinse type thing. I will be rinsing so, I assume use the same and rinse? Actually I was thinking maybe the best way is to add to another soap to help condition water? Extra lubricity...and perhaps soap up with it seperate to get the loose dirt off first then wash again?
I know...I am crazy. First clean up on this car and I want to do good before I get the sealant and wax on...just being very protective.
I know...I am crazy. First clean up on this car and I want to do good before I get the sealant and wax on...just being very protective.
Melting Slicks
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So can you use Optimums like a regular car soap? It shows directions for adding to your car and for using as No rinse type thing. I will be rinsing so, I assume use the same and rinse? Actually I was thinking maybe the best way is to add to another soap to help condition water? Extra lubricity...and perhaps soap up with it seperate to get the loose dirt off first then wash again?
I know...I am crazy. First clean up on this car and I want to do good before I get the sealant and wax on...just being very protective.
I know...I am crazy. First clean up on this car and I want to do good before I get the sealant and wax on...just being very protective.
optimum has three different soaps:
Optimum Car Wash- traditional soap put some in a bucket, hose down your car, lather, rinse, repeat (wait thats my shampoo)
Optimum No rinse wash and gloss- rinsless product, fill bucket, add ONR, dip mit, wipe car with mitt until clean, dry with towel
Optimum opticlean- waterless wash- spray on panel wipe away dirt (light dirt?)
either one of these will work it all depends on how dirty your car is, I know on my vette it never gets dirty enough to need a full blown car wash with a hose, and i have been able to wash my wifes acura mdx (soft black paint) after driving in snow and road salt for a week and not get marring using ONR
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optimum has three different soaps:
Optimum Car Wash- traditional soap put some in a bucket, hose down your car, lather, rinse, repeat (wait thats my shampoo)
Optimum No rinse wash and gloss- rinsless product, fill bucket, add ONR, dip mit, wipe car with mitt until clean, dry with towel
Optimum opticlean- waterless wash- spray on panel wipe away dirt (light dirt?)
either one of these will work it all depends on how dirty your car is, I know on my vette it never gets dirty enough to need a full blown car wash with a hose, and i have been able to wash my wifes acura mdx (soft black paint) after driving in snow and road salt for a week and not get marring using ONR
Optimum Car Wash- traditional soap put some in a bucket, hose down your car, lather, rinse, repeat (wait thats my shampoo)
Optimum No rinse wash and gloss- rinsless product, fill bucket, add ONR, dip mit, wipe car with mitt until clean, dry with towel
Optimum opticlean- waterless wash- spray on panel wipe away dirt (light dirt?)
either one of these will work it all depends on how dirty your car is, I know on my vette it never gets dirty enough to need a full blown car wash with a hose, and i have been able to wash my wifes acura mdx (soft black paint) after driving in snow and road salt for a week and not get marring using ONR
I may practice on another vehicle the ONR...it scares me. I mean a bone dry vehicle you just take a mit with ONR and go at it? Well once you mix in a bucket..and assume use of two bucket method.
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http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-car-wash.html
This is the traditional car wash and a great soap with lots of lubrication. Dont however be scared of ONR and you should keep some for quick washes or times when traditional washing is hard, like traveling. I did it for an entire week (every night) recently on my Vette without any noticable marring. Its truly a must-have product too.
http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
This is the traditional car wash and a great soap with lots of lubrication. Dont however be scared of ONR and you should keep some for quick washes or times when traditional washing is hard, like traveling. I did it for an entire week (every night) recently on my Vette without any noticable marring. Its truly a must-have product too.
http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
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You want the best and most versatile soaps, then consider:
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
1. Optimums
2. Poorboys Suds
3. Duragloss
4. Griots
http://autogeek.net/washing.html
That's classic.
