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Any comments.... pros or cons ..... for using an orbital buffer?
It's ok for spreading wax at best. If you are looking for any paint correction, that buffer will not work. The PC 7424XP (which I have) or similar is a good choice. Griot's Garage, Meguiar's, etc have similar DA style buffers.
Thanks for the reply, firebug10. Not looking for paint correction, just polishing. I have been waxing/polishing cars for many years, and always by hand. Now that I'm nearing 81, I'm looking for help.
I have one of these: , but it becomes heavy after a short period, and I'm concerned about doing more harm than good.
The orbital works fine for me, and it seems to have an improved
effect on the shine, when compared to my 'hand' shine.
I was just wondering if it is my imagination due to my effort, or if a machine shine is better than a hand shine.
The machine does not get tired, so I believe you will see better results than by hand. The second picture you posted looks like a rotary buffer. They are heavy and can damage the paint quicky if not familiar with it's actions. I started off with a buffer like you posted in the first post years ago. It seemed to do ok with applying wax and removing it. Polishing is a different story. Polishing "cleans/clears" the surface and gets it ready for wax/ sealant, etc. If you are just "waxing" and you are happy with the results of the orbital, then I would stick with that. The orbital will not damage the paint unless you drop it on the car. The DA buffers are great tools, but if you are doing no correction then the orbital will be fine. I don't know of any cons with the orbital, because it doesn't do a whole lot except apply/remove wax. The pro is, it doesn't tire like your arm does. I can only hope that I'm as active at 81 as you are!!
I waxed and buffed the vette today using the orbital. A quick clean-up rub with microfiber towels left a very nice shine. Very pleased with the results. Thanks for the help.
Those big headed buffers have no speed adjustibility and no real power for polishing. They are best used for wax application and perhaps to help with removal as desired. Becareful as alot of them are sold with wool pads and often leave more marring.
Those big headed buffers have no speed adjustibility and no real power for polishing. They are best used for wax application and perhaps to help with removal as desired. Becareful as alot of them are sold with wool pads and often leave more marring.
Your info is much appreciated. First time user with a machine buffer, and I am pleased with the shine achieved today with the orbital buffer. Was ignorant of the importance of the pad material. After reading your suggestion, I checked my pad label, and the pad is a 'wool blend'.
No paint marks, just a nice shine. Without benefit of a scientific measure, I think the 'shine' achieved today was an improvement over hand-polishing with a microfiber towel. Although, the microfiber towel was used as a finish rub.
I learned that a heavy application of wax is not the key to a deep shine.
I learned that a heavy application of wax is not the key to a deep shine.
The key to any wax or sealant is indeed a very light and even coating. More does not mean better protection or longer protection, just more work to rub off.
A wax or sealant may add a little to the final outcome of your finish, but true paint polishing will indeed add the most and bring out additional gloss and reflection. The wax or sealant becomes protection and locks in all the hard work.
I use the Porter Cable. It saves my arms and it does a good job of bringing out the shine when polishing with Blackfire. I also use the buffer to spread sealant.
I use the Porter Cable. It saves my arms and it does a good job of bringing out the shine when polishing with Blackfire. I also use the buffer to spread sealant.
some even use their orbitals to remove their sealant or wax of choice. Just make sure to use the correct pad or perhaps a MF bonnet. Thanks for a kudos on our Blackfire product line
The last few days I've been disappointed in my 2 1/2 year old PC 7424xp. I only use it for personal use on my three cars and I just noticed the spindle assy has quite a bit of play in it. The failing part is just a bearing with the threaded receiver for the pad/disc but it costs about $45 plus shipping. The 7424xp has a three year parts warranty but get this - it doesn't cover NORMAL WEAR. WTF!
The last few days I've been disappointed in my 2 1/2 year old PC 7424xp. I only use it for personal use on my three cars and I just noticed the spindle assy has quite a bit of play in it. The failing part is just a bearing with the threaded receiver for the pad/disc but it costs about $45 plus shipping. The 7424xp has a three year parts warranty but get this - it doesn't cover NORMAL WEAR. WTF!
I believe the Griots Random Orbital offers a lifetime warranty from the manufacturer if used outside of professional settings. More torque, and 3rd generation unit now in stock ... sounds like its better to upgrade versus buying the part.