Black 'Vette owners what's the best "Black Wax"
#141
Team Owner
A lot of polishers will look similar in design and different power levels, and trim levels just like a car. The most popular is the PC-XP. Megs offers one quite similar. Griots also offers one with quite a bit more torque which helps with cutting and polishing a bit faster.
Great thing, they all use the same accessories and pads. This way you can add to your collection and upgrade your machine when wanted.
http://www.autogeek.net/bupo.html
Great thing, they all use the same accessories and pads. This way you can add to your collection and upgrade your machine when wanted.
http://www.autogeek.net/bupo.html
In other words, you get what you pay for....
#143
Safety Car
I believe after you take possession of your new C7 you have it professionally detailed to get
Rid of any mistakes your dealer may have made.
After that use the wax that you like.After that xpel,or some type of film.Or use A sealer such as Cquartz and then all you will need to do is wash it,or use the waterless wash.And no swirl
Marks.You will get paint protection from rocks.And then you'll drive it instead of wiping it.
Rid of any mistakes your dealer may have made.
After that use the wax that you like.After that xpel,or some type of film.Or use A sealer such as Cquartz and then all you will need to do is wash it,or use the waterless wash.And no swirl
Marks.You will get paint protection from rocks.And then you'll drive it instead of wiping it.
#144
Former Vendor
For polishes I would highly suggest a 2-step:
1> Menzerna SIP and 085rd
2> Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and Finishing Glaze
3> Megs 105 and 205
#145
Team Owner
I like Hydro-tech pads from Lake Country. I use the 5.5 inch size. You will want at least 2 of each per car. You will also need a 5 inch flexible backing plate to hold the pads in place. (not sure if the HF buffer uses the same attachment as the others)
For polishes I would highly suggest a 2-step:
1> Menzerna SIP and 085rd
2> Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and Finishing Glaze
3> Megs 105 and 205
For polishes I would highly suggest a 2-step:
1> Menzerna SIP and 085rd
2> Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and Finishing Glaze
3> Megs 105 and 205
#147
Drifting
Thread Starter
Seems like my best "Black" wax thread has yielded a wealth of unrelated detail and various product info but very little input on the actual Black COLORED wax I originally intended this thread to be about. At this point I'm supposing not a lot of folks use the stuff.
#148
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I tried the Turtle Wax Black Box; It was messy to use and the result, while OK, was much less than using my normal routine of clay, polish, and Zaino. If you have significant flaws and deep scratches it may provide some cover, but it did not give me the deep wet shine I strive for.
#149
Former Vendor
We offer a color charged wax in the Blackfire line, BlackIce, which looks great on dark colors and black. It is however still designed to work best with each area of detailing (wash, clay, polish) done first. Some suggest it offers a warmer look over other waxes. Dodo Juice also offers several color charged waxes for different colors. Again neither product has any appreciable cleaners and polishes and simply designed as protection of the painted surface. In the end it comes down to your preference in the final look.
#150
Instructor
Thanks,
G
#151
Instructor
We offer a color charged wax in the Blackfire line, BlackIce, which looks great on dark colors and black. It is however still designed to work best with each area of detailing (wash, clay, polish) done first. Some suggest it offers a warmer look over other waxes. Dodo Juice also offers several color charged waxes for different colors. Again neither product has any appreciable cleaners and polishes and simply designed as protection of the painted surface. In the end it comes down to your preference in the final look.
PS, I put it on my wife's Camaro last week, I'll see how it does again.
Last edited by trm 84; 08-01-2014 at 09:52 PM.
#152
I have blackice (pretty sure it purchased from you) and have used it a couple of times. I am not fond of it. I find it hard to remove and lacking in longevity (maybe 3 weeks on a garage queen - a garage queen driven about 100 miles!). Other Carnaubas I have last much longer, and I prefer the warmth and depth of them also. Sorry, but just giving my opinion.
PS, I put it on my wife's Camaro last week, I'll see how it does again.
PS, I put it on my wife's Camaro last week, I'll see how it does again.
#153
Drifting
Thread Starter
I live in Las Vegas and just finished applying Zainos to my 2002 Black Vette. I started with a clay bar to remove imperfections and then followed their products instructions to completion. Short and sweet, I would be happy to drive out to Boulder City and meet with you so you can see first hand the results.
Thanks,
G
Thanks,
G
I play my sax at "Jack's place" in Boulder City every Sun 2-6pm, but I won't have my vette on Sunday as I use my other car to haul equipment to the gig.
Looks like you have a very nice car, I'd like to see it.
I have some Zaino on the way too, I think I'll be trying it this week.
#154
Advanced
WOW...tons of info here. Some way off topic from the OP's Black 'Vette owners what's the best "Black Wax".
Here's my hat in the ring. I think it would have resulted in more opinions if it was "What is the best wax for black".
IMHO Turtle Wax "Black Box" is awful junk. Turtle Wax Black Spray Detailer is "not bad" but not a favorite I would use.
Black dye waxes only temporarily "fill" and hide imperfections. Glazes and waxes can and do "fill" swirls and fine scratches.
Meguiars "Black Wax" has no dye. It has "polymers & micro polishing agents that help reduce the appearance of minor defects..."
I like many different waxes and sealants. It's all about the "look" and longevity. Do you like bright and shiny or depth and warmth?
I have purchased and tried hundreds of products. Some I liked, and some I didn't and gave away. There are many I have yet to try.
Basically there are three general Last Step Product categories. Waxes, Sealants and Coatings from Adams to Zaino. <--(A to Z) [GRIN]
What do YOU want and like? Do you like waxing? Do you want to install a coating like CQuartz Finest and not worry about LSP for years?
I liked waxing my garage queen. I did the Mr. Miyagi WOWO thing for years & truly enjoyed it. Now I've done CQF I miss our time together.
So basically it comes down to what YOU want from a product. If the question is "What looks good on black paint?" I have lots of suggestions.
Here's my hat in the ring. I think it would have resulted in more opinions if it was "What is the best wax for black".
IMHO Turtle Wax "Black Box" is awful junk. Turtle Wax Black Spray Detailer is "not bad" but not a favorite I would use.
Black dye waxes only temporarily "fill" and hide imperfections. Glazes and waxes can and do "fill" swirls and fine scratches.
Meguiars "Black Wax" has no dye. It has "polymers & micro polishing agents that help reduce the appearance of minor defects..."
I like many different waxes and sealants. It's all about the "look" and longevity. Do you like bright and shiny or depth and warmth?
I have purchased and tried hundreds of products. Some I liked, and some I didn't and gave away. There are many I have yet to try.
Basically there are three general Last Step Product categories. Waxes, Sealants and Coatings from Adams to Zaino. <--(A to Z) [GRIN]
What do YOU want and like? Do you like waxing? Do you want to install a coating like CQuartz Finest and not worry about LSP for years?
I liked waxing my garage queen. I did the Mr. Miyagi WOWO thing for years & truly enjoyed it. Now I've done CQF I miss our time together.
So basically it comes down to what YOU want from a product. If the question is "What looks good on black paint?" I have lots of suggestions.
#155
Safety Car
I still believe you do the prep work clay etc,and it hardly makes any difference what wax you use.Try this test.1 wax on left side of hood,2 wax on right side of hood.I don't see any difference in the shine.Maybe I'm going blind.
#157
Drifting
Thread Starter
Here's a couple pics, just applied Z5 she's ready for Zaino #2 show polish..I really like this stuff, I can understand all the good reviews..first pic is product applied (hood ony) 2nd pic hand buffed..
Wow..my hood pops..!
Wow..my hood pops..!
Last edited by SaxyVette; 08-02-2014 at 03:54 PM.
#160
Advanced
Decontamination is a major part of preparation.
I normally do at least a three step paint decon.
I use a citrus degreaser, 2Bwash, IronX & clay.
While I'm claying, I baggie test each panel I do.
Decon is not about shine. It's about clean paint.
Almost each wax has a different subjective "look".
Many sealants each have their own "look & feel".
Some coatings have a "look". Some have no look.
CQF, for example, can be used on a matte finish.
Use what YOU like for a Last Step Product & enjoy.