Detailing Help
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Detailing Help
Hey guys
Just bought a'16 Daytona Orange Z/51 from a private owner and he was kind of vague on what he used to protect the car (it looks great) in the shade it looks
like a million dollars but I noticed in the sun there are some some surface scratches throughout the hood/top/hatch I know there's no ceramic coating at least that's
what he told me? I've used Zaino products in the past but it doesn't seem to hold up like the new technology that's out there now. Should I start by stripping off the old
or is there something I can use to just get the scratches out and seal it? Been seeing a lot off buzz about Blackfire one step but I'm not familiar with it as of yet?
ny input would be appreciated and thank you in advance!
Just bought a'16 Daytona Orange Z/51 from a private owner and he was kind of vague on what he used to protect the car (it looks great) in the shade it looks
like a million dollars but I noticed in the sun there are some some surface scratches throughout the hood/top/hatch I know there's no ceramic coating at least that's
what he told me? I've used Zaino products in the past but it doesn't seem to hold up like the new technology that's out there now. Should I start by stripping off the old
or is there something I can use to just get the scratches out and seal it? Been seeing a lot off buzz about Blackfire one step but I'm not familiar with it as of yet?
ny input would be appreciated and thank you in advance!
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Black Fire One Step is one of the products I like to use. It will remove light surface swirls, but I wouldn't expect it to remove scratches. That might require compounding. It's worth a try with a DA buffer and aggressive pad like the Uro-Tech maroon pad and the One Step. It might work if the scratches are light. Check out Mike Phillips "How to" using One Step on AutoGeek.
If One Step does work, you can follow it up with the Black Fire Si02 spray sealant for extra shine and longer lasting protection...
If One Step does work, you can follow it up with the Black Fire Si02 spray sealant for extra shine and longer lasting protection...
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Rather than list the numerous products (seemingly endless) I'll say that AIO (All In One) products are probably a good start. @ralexand mentioned one BF product in post 2 and as he states they are good at minor imperfections. That said they are really good in one respect, they are mildly abrasive which is always a better place to start vs. starting with a heavy cutting product. The downside of an AIO is that they are all-in-one which implies, at least to me, they are not going to be great at everything. They can't be nor are they designed to be.
You mention Zaino and they have an All-In-One (Z-AIO) product so if you're already comfortable with Zaino try theirs. I've used several different ones including Zaino's and found it to be good at what it is designed for.
Congrats on the new ride!
You mention Zaino and they have an All-In-One (Z-AIO) product so if you're already comfortable with Zaino try theirs. I've used several different ones including Zaino's and found it to be good at what it is designed for.
Congrats on the new ride!
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If I did not know. I would claybar everything off, grab an orange buff pad and do a color correct or fast cut on the scratched area, then polish and a sealant glaze on a black pad .. Obviously do a color correct on whole car, but possibly use the fast correct on the problem area. I use a long throw G21 buffer, great machine. Then use whatever top coat like P&B Beadmaker or whatever. I would want it all gone and start over to "know" what is on my car. I have Blackfire, but truthfully prefer the steps over the "magical" all in one products
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Rather than list the numerous products (seemingly endless) I'll say that AIO (All In One) products are probably a good start. @ralexand mentioned one BF product in post 2 and as he states they are good at minor imperfections. That said they are really good in one respect, they are mildly abrasive which is always a better place to start vs. starting with a heavy cutting product. The downside of an AIO is that they are all-in-one which implies, at least to me, they are not going to be great at everything. They can't be nor are they designed to be.
You mention Zaino and they have an All-In-One (Z-AIO) product so if you're already comfortable with Zaino try theirs. I've used several different ones including Zaino's and found it to be good at what it is designed for.
Congrats on the new ride!
You mention Zaino and they have an All-In-One (Z-AIO) product so if you're already comfortable with Zaino try theirs. I've used several different ones including Zaino's and found it to be good at what it is designed for.
Congrats on the new ride!
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I agree with Gixxerman. I much prefer using a "pure polish" and then a separate sealant or wax over an AIO whenever possible. Today's modern polishes actually finish really well, even when using an orange foam light cutting pad. And they do perform better at correcting than most AIOs. For example, I use Meg's D166 AIO with much success. It actually corrects very well, and leaves both sealant and carnauba behind as protection. I use it on my friend's cars when they say "hey, just make it look better". However, I can correct my paint just as well with a good pure finishing polish and an even milder foam pad. Always seems to finish better, too. It doesn't take long to apply some protection afterwards, anyway. So many good spray sealants on the market these days.
I have a big bottle of Blackfire finishing polish, but haven't tried their AIO. I do hear good things about it, though.
I have a big bottle of Blackfire finishing polish, but haven't tried their AIO. I do hear good things about it, though.
