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I noticed on your phenomenal blue Z, on the lower door post where the Modesto sticker resides....it says no clay, buffing, etc. I have CeramicPro and does that apply to mine as well?
thanks mike, phenomenal is a compliment in the highest order.
typically a ceramic coated car would not get clayed since it could scratch, damage, or ever so slightly “peel” a bit of the coating off. Polishing a coated car with any even semi abrasive Polish and anything other than an applicator pad will surely begin to remove and cut into the ceramic coating.
id also be very careful with tar removers. Iron removers pose no threat whatsoever
this is not just a Modesta coating thing, it’s for all ceramic coated vehicles
Originally Posted by MyC8Life
Loki, et al
Screen name was “My6thOne’. Changed it to “MyC8Life”
I noticed on your phenomenal blue Z, on the lower door post where the Modesto sticker resides....it says no clay, buffing, etc. I have CeramicPro and does that apply to mine as well?
Screen name was “My6thOne’. Changed it to “MyC8Life”
@MyC8Life Had to comment on this. Funny, but when I first decided on my username for the Corvette Forum about 17 years ago, I picked one that I hoped would remain current. So I am simply "Nextone." Enjoy your C8!
@MyC8Life Had to comment on this. Funny, but when I first decided on my username for the Corvette Forum about 17 years ago, I picked one that I hoped would remain current. So I am simply "Nextone." Enjoy your C8!
Screen name was “My6thOne’. Changed it to “MyC8Life”
I noticed on your phenomenal blue Z, on the lower door post where the Modesto sticker resides....it says no clay, buffing, etc. I have CeramicPro and does that apply to mine as well?
Mike
Something to keep in mind (if it is applicable to you, contact your installer for more info) is what needs to be done (and likely *not done*) to maintain your warranty. While DIY/Prosumer coatings can be the Wild West as far as using additional products and whatnot, the warranties with the pro stuff require adherence to certain things to keep them valid.
Does this product require annual servicing?
Yes. To maintain your warranty, you need to attend an annual service. This is to ensure the Ceramic Pro performs properly for the entire length of the warranty. If an annual inspection is missed, the warranty defaults to the lesser package at the time of the missed annual inspection. i.e. A Gold (Lifetime) warranty becomes a Silver (5 year) warranty when an annual service is missed.
They also note some particular after-care items; when in doubt, follow directions I guess. CeramicPro aftercare: https://ceramicpro.com/aftercare/
02. CERAMIC PRO EXTERIOR PAINT WARRANTY
2.1 Ceramic Pro Gold
Warranty is valid for Lifetime of a vehicle from the date of application for any vehicle. This warranty requires annual inspections and becomes a 5 year Warranty from the date of last inspection if an inspection is missed.
2.2 Ceramic Pro Silver
Warranty is valid for Five (5) years from the date of application for any vehicle. This warranty requires annual inspections and becomes a 2 year Warranty from the date of last inspection if an inspection is missed.
2.3 Ceramic Pro Bronze
Warranty is valid for Two (2) years from the date of application for any vehicle. This warranty requires annual inspections and becomes a 1 year Warranty from the date of last inspection if an inspection is missed.
2.4 Ceramic Pro Sport
Warranty is valid for Six (6) Months from the date of application for any vehicle.
03. ANNUAL INSPECTION
1. Annual Inspections must be carried out by an approved applicator, with in 30 days before the anniversary date of the last service to maintain the warranty.
2. Failure to undertake an annual inspection within the required period will change the period of cover the minimum number years stated in each different warranty in part 02. of this warranty document. Annual inspections are no longer required.
3. A fee determined by the approved applicator will be charged for the Annual Inspection, which includes – Exterior Wash, Decontamination and Inspection and possible reapplication of coating.
Bro....that is a gaggle of info. Thanks so much! I have the Gold package on the C8. Figured I’d better because it’s black. With the information I’ve received from you, Loki. And Fyrarms, I too have turned into a maniac, i.e. ordering Sio2 products out the yingyang . That said, I have enjoyed experimenting and the outcomes. Hard work but satisfying indeed. I guess the next question is: Can I apply actual paste wax to a ceramic coated Vette? Seems to be a ton of killer wax out there.
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Bro....that is a gaggle of info. Thanks so much! I have the Gold package on the C8. Figured I’d better because it’s black. With the information I’ve received from you, Loki. And Fyrarms, I too have turned into a maniac, i.e. ordering Sio2 products out the yingyang . That said, I have enjoyed experimenting and the outcomes. Hard work but satisfying indeed. I guess the next question is: Can I apply actual paste wax to a ceramic coated Vette? Seems to be a ton of killer wax out there.
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Mike
Very short answer about paste wax- yes as long as it is synthetic and/or has no carnauba in it.
carnauba and SiO2 don’t play well together.
Polish Angel high gloss wax would be a spectacular choice!
It's kind of a 'relaxed high gloss' look, very enjoyable to use and excellent performance. Have been using on coated cars every now and again since Spring 2017 and has never had any detrimental effect on base coatings.
Polish Angel High Gloss Paste Wax; a 'maximum reflectivity' choice, I used it last Summer on wife's daily driver Aegean Blue Metallic Honda and my Agate Gray Metallic Cayman, both coated. It was a great look, really amped up the 'starburst' pinpoints of reflectivity that ya get when the sun hits a panel transition just the right way. Maintained it w PA High Gloss Spritz and with the above cars which were driven both rain and shine and self cleaning/hydrophobic behavior was stellar.
Another coating compatible wax is apparently the recent release of Gyeon Wax. I gave it a try on a variety of surfaces (coated, uncoated and side by side with Gyeon CanCoat) and have some notes here: https://budgetplan1.wordpress.com/gl...ngs/#GYEON_WAX
I also put it on the hood, roof and trunk of my freeway abused, coated daily driver last night after a heavy Spring cleaning, Gyeon Restart, Gyeon Iron, Gyeon Tar & multiple foam, bucket washes and pressure rinses in between. After not seeing a wash since last November, it takes a lot of abuse over 10k miles of NE Ohio Winter freeway driving and needs a lot of decon to get down to the coating and restore its 'goodness' after Winter.
The coating on sides, front and back of car came back delightfully but the graphene coating on the hood, roof and trunk of car fell victim to the neglect and road gruel that Winter brings here; so I wiped it down with panel wipe and put the Gyeon Wax on it. Too soon to say how it will do overall but initially it's quite nice...and fun, easy to use in its 'chaptstick' container format. Really looking forward to rain as flourine-infused products are generally pretty entertaining w regards to hydrophobics.
As an aside, I took advantage of the deep clean and prepped the windshield so I could give another recently released Gyeon product a try, their Quick View glass coating; a uniquely-packaged product that is indeed 'Quick' to use.
All of that said, a word of caution about 'product overload', speaking from unfortunate personal experience. 😱 Trying lotsa stuff is fun and stacking things can be rewarding but eventually you'll run into some things that just don't work together and in some cases, change things for the worse in a semi-permanent manner as far as base coating performance goes.
I tried TAC Moonlight over a (somewhat mundane) coating in Summer of 2017 and could never get back the original performance prior to the addition of Moonlight. It wasn't that the coating or the Moonlight were bad but in that particular case the combo of those 2 individual and distinct products just set the paintwork universe asunder. Hadda totally start from scratch and re-polish the car and re-coat.
Almost did it again last fall when I gave wife's coated Honda its last wash in November...and then did a layer of Kami Infinity, an application of Kami Overcoat, a layer of Polish Angel High Gloss Paste and finished with PA High Gloss Spritz. Didn't plan on it after the Infinity/Overcoat, it just kinda happened 😄. I've been doing the Infinity/Overcoat thing before Winter for past 3 years and it always results in easy Spring cleanup but after doing her Spring cleanup last weekend, uh...oops. What is usually an easy cleanup was kinda a more 'chemically involved' process than ever before; Winter was actually less brutal this year and her car even got to spend the end of Winter in the garage so all I can think is that the particular combo in my particular situation just didn't play well when coupled with the neglect and chemical bombardment that Winter brings; here in Ohio, the chemical stew is quite impressive and usually ladled on the roadways at the slightest hint of impending snow: Winter Road Treatments in Ohio
Was OK in the end but thru the entire process all I could think was "Geez...did I do this again?". 😄
Sometimes more ain't better no matter how great the products are on their own (or in other combinations).
Even with all of the stuff I’ve tried over the past few years, incidents such as the above are rare…but it should always be in the back of your mind that “Nothing is always and nothing is never…” as far as product compatibility goes.
Another item is waxes w/ regards to PPF; I can’t recall if parts of your car are PPF’d but if so, waxes in the ‘paste-like’ arena are generally more trouble than they’re worth, at least for me. Just as wax needs to be dug out of cracks and crevices on a non-PPF’d car, paste waxes will likely accumulate along the edges and seams of PPF; it can be cleaned out but is that extra effort worth it? Only you can decide.
In the end one thing I’m looking forward to w/ 2 fully PPF’d cars is the minimalist approach I’ll take with them. Wash, hit with a product like a Polish Angel Spritz and that’s about it. While I can ‘fix’ detrimental product overload situations on our coated cars myself, I definitely don’t wanna goon up a somewhat significant investment w/ the PPF (which also has warranty considerations); before doing *anything* with that, I contact the installer to get their thoughts…which is why the installer/client relationship is something I consider VERY important. In that vein, with your pro-coating, it’s something to keep in mind as well. Kinda like bolting aftermarket mods to your car while under factory warranty.
WOW! I think I'm gonna try Kamikaze Infinity. Their Overcoat is simply amazing. However, PA High Gloss is incredible stuff. Note the finished product on the C8 ceramic coated:
Your evaluation is killer! Can't wait to get to work. Thank you sir!!!
Looks like PA high gloss wax and Kamikaze Infinity wax is the way. You’re the man bro. You and BudgetPlan and that experience is a must have. I’m grateful to have you here to rely upon. Many thanks. I’m sure I’ll have more questions.
Canyou shoot me ideas re non-carnauba wax(s)? As Loki mentioned: PA High Gloss. There are a multitude of them. Hard to filter the not-so-good stuff. Any recommendations would be a huge help!
Canyou shoot me ideas re non-carnauba wax(s)? As Loki mentioned: PA High Gloss. There are a multitude of them. Hard to filter the not-so-good stuff. Any recommendations would be a huge help!
Mike
Hi Mike,
You didn't specify Paste or Spray Wax...
For Paste you already know the PA HG Wax is the bomb and does not contain any Carnauba. The Kamikaze Infinity Wax has a ton of carnauba, so avoid that if you don't want a carnauba product.
For Spray - my personal favorite "wax" is TAC Shinee Wax - a synthetic spray wax, with a touch of SiO2 in it. It behaves like a typical spray on spray off product so it is easy to use. And it is ridiculously inexpensive, (especially compared to Polish Angel products) But regardless of its price or whatever you want to compare it to, it is a gloss and radiance BOMB. It buries many other products I've used before and has become a staple for me. I'll likely NEVER be without it my arsenal and I have come to cherish that little yellow bottle of yellow goodness. I decided to play mad scientist with it a while back and I added some Reload @1:6 and it really jacked up the slickness and water behavior characteristics of the product. I affectionately dubbed my cocktail "ShineeLoad".
Here is a link to the album that highlights the results:
This is my go to stack when I want to create the sharp mirror like and the "blue chrome" effect the car wears at most shows - note Shinee Wax as a part of it. The Holy Trinity of Gloss: TAC Systems 1 Step Master PolishAngel High Gloss TAC Systems Shinee Wax
Just ordered Shinee and 1 StepMaster. Weird....TAC website says “under maintenance”. I’ve shopped there before and had to the Carzilla. So...can’t wait to get to work.
As always, thank you for your time sir.
Just ordered Shinee and 1 StepMaster. Weird....TAC website says “under maintenance”. I’ve shopped there before and had to the Carzilla. So...can’t wait to get to work.
As always, thank you for your time sir.
Mike
That's awesome Mike!
Yes, the new USA source for TAC in Florida has unfortunately proven to be "lackluster" at best. Carzilla is your friend...agreed! Please let me know if you have any further questions and let us know when the detailing fairy stops by your place with that box of TAC goodness!
Loki6
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