Decon

Hiyas,
Tried the NXT! On and off ultra easy to use. I washed the next day and re-applied. My Silver Y2K never looked better! That was 3 weeks and 3 washings ago. The bugs wipe off really easy. I have a car show (small one) this weekend so......Tonight after I washed it I used some NXT Spray Booster! Oh my God it's beautiful! I'm ready for the show! Ok! Almost I didn't care for the spray on so I sprayed directly on my applicator pad.

I was a Dri-Wash n' Guard user for years. I did't like Dri-Washes new formulea. Tried Zaino. It was OK, but I didn't think the bug removal was very good and regarless of what's said it is VERY difficult to put on. At least, if you follow the instructions, using a dime size and working in small circles your in for a long workout. Then wait an hour for it to dry. In that time I could have 2-coated with NXT and mown my 1/3 acre yard!

I am staying with the NXT - Updated Pic soon!
Regards,
Decon

TheDarkKnight

gq82: I'd not mess with that shine either!

TheDarkKnight

You might want to (re)read the instructions
""" Apply a thin coat of Z-2 to your entire car using a 100% cotton cloth or applicator pad. On top panels, use front-to-back hand motions. On side panels, use up-and-down hand motions. This helps improve reflectivity. Heavy rubbing is not necessary."""

No mention of using circles there (or dime sizes of product) !

Oh, and I get 2, sometimes 3, coats of Z on in an hour.

That said, I'm no fan of DWG either. :p:

[edit: oops forgot to uncheck the sig ]


[Modified by TheDarkKnight, 9:52 PM 5/24/2004]


[Modified by TheDarkKnight, 9:52 PM 5/24/2004]

TheDarkKnight

I too don't get the "cost and difficulty in getting it" claims. You go online, you buy it, it gets delivered to your door. Cost-wise it is among the cheapest, if not THE cheapest, shipping included. 8.95/12.95 for a bottle that lasts two years is costly?!?!

Decon

<Sigh>
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...D&Store_Code=Z

{Quote}
Applying ZFX™ Enabled Show Car Polish
Follow these easy steps:

1. Apply Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFX™ with our Zaino Bros' Custom Polish Applicator. Use the polish sparingly. A small amount goes a long way, and you will be applying multiple coats.
2. Squirt a dime size dab of polish on your applicator and rub it into your paint using circular hand motions. Then, go over the same area using a straight back and forth motion on top panels and an up and down motion on side panels. Allow the polish to haze for 20 to 30 minutes.
3. Buff off the Show Car Polish residue with a high quality, 100% cotton, made in the USA, detailing towel.
4. After buffing, spray the car with a light mist of Z-6 Ultra Clean™ Gloss Enhancer Spray detailing spray. Z-6 will help buff away any remaining residue and enhances the brightness of the finish. Using Z-6, the next coat of Zaino Show Car Polish will apply even easier. {End Quote}

"Use what you like and Like what you use!"

Good Polishing to you...Sir See you at the Boise Vette Fest??


[Modified by Decon, 10:55 PM 5/25/2004]

TheDarkKnight

Interesting, the instructions I posted came from the same place. http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...ory_Code=Zaino

And yes I will definitely be at the Vettefest. I planned on that even before I found out we'll have a C6 there.
Will you be autocrossing while there?

TheDarkKnight

... and http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...F&Store_Code=Z says to use a nickle size.

I just sent an email to them informing them of the contradiction/inconsistency

agentf1

I use a stripe about 1 1/2 to 2" long and do ateast one panel or more with it. It probably equals about a nickel or dimes worth but I like it spread out across the pad. You probably need 4 times that amount on the pad if using NXT or a wax product.

oldace84

NXT....THE best!

VetNutJim

NXT= []bNOT the Best[/b]

ZAINO = THE BEST


My Test Performed 6/5/2004 results:

I bought NXT to compare against my Zaino.
NXT Cost At AutoZone: $16.83

Used NXT on half my hood. Zaino on the other half.

BOTH looked good BUT....

When looking at reflections of objects on the wall in front of the hood,
the Zaino side was DEFINITELY clearer and sharper than the NXT side.

To use the Zaino terms "optical clarity" was apparently much,much better than NXT.
Just as one can "hear" or "sense" frequencies outside the defined 20-20khz audio range, I'm SURE the clearer surface will be detected by human eyes even if one is not specifically "looking" to make a judgement.

I could see the clock face, a 55 T-Bird Picture and numerous objects on the wall in front of the hood a LOT better on the Zaino side.
The shine was good but that was the difference I saw.

I had the hood OPEN at almost a 90 degree vertical angle when looking at the two sides.

Both sides had received TWO coats of product.
Directions were followed on both products.

Here's my summary:

1) Cost..... about the same
2) Application effort...... about the same
3) Removal effort..... about the same
4) Time To Completion.....about the same
5) Shine........ZAINO WINS
6 Smell........ZAINO WINS
7) Availability.......NXT WINS

Yep, NXT is more readily AVAILABLE but I'll just order me up some more Zaino, thank you very much.
With all the money Meguairs has I would have thought this would be the Zaino killer.
Must say I'm a 'little' dissapointed however I'm glad Zaino works so well because I'm not out of it yet.

I know 'shine' may be considered to be 'objective' BUT what I saw cannot, in my mind be disputed. I saw it with my own eyes.
I was unbiased. AS a matter of fact, I was hoping to get at least equal results with NXT because I don't like having to order Zaino.

Oh well.... Zaino wins and smells better too.

58Vette65

I can not tell the difference when I did it -- either could about 35 people at the cruse in.


[Modified by 58Vette65, 10:42 AM 6/9/2004]

Dr.Ron

I used the NXT 1x. Was using Zaino. Look @ my 2nd sig pic....looks pretty sharp to me.. I will try the NXT for a bit before making a final decision. The NXT is much less time consuming... I have only spray detailed since waxing (no washing yet) & she still looks awesome. Couldn't do that w/ Zaino....

VetNutJim

Yes, the half of my hood done with NXT looks 'pretty' sharp. I agree.
However:
The half done with Zaino looks 'sharper' than the NXT side.

The work/time to put both products on and buff them back off were equal.

All things being equal, I'll go with ANY product that makes the shine sbrighter and sharper.
I keep spending money on all these new things folks 'discover' but, so far, Zaino is the winner.

Dr. Ron I guess it's may be like using a veneer product on someones teeth.
As long as no side by side comparison with a discerning eye is made anything will look 'pretty' good.

Until a 'close comparison' is made it's hard to say which is the 'better' product.
'Better' even needs to be defined.
Better to some may be easier availability.
Better to another may be ease of use.

MY personal 'better' is shine which I can judge with my own personal 'reflectometers' , my eyes.

Don't mean to be argumentative at all. Zaino just has a better shine, better optical clarity and shows reflections much clearer than NXT.

Cost is about the same.
Application/Removal Time & Effort about the same.

If you guys are having a hard time applying and removing Zaino, you're doing something wrong.
If you aren't getting excellent results with Zaino you're doing something wrong.

There "may' be better products than Zaino. I hope I find one.
But it has to offer a better 'shine'.
NXT isn't that product.

Pinnacle?? Haven't tried it, yet.

C5corvetteman

Jet-Jock

I have expeienced the same thing. They keep changing the application tips. I made PDFs of their pages a few years ago, suddenly the instructions are entirely different. And according to them the product doesn't work unless you spot te extra $20. for ZFX. The thing they never tell you at Zaino is if you don't apply it so thin you can't see it your putting it on too thick. Of course the directions on the bottle contradict the web site entirely.

If you don't use the ZFX you will end up with a smeary mess on your hands. And while the others may cost $15 or more you must consider that with zaino its $20 for the ZFX and then another $17 for the polish.

Not happy with the Zaino people at all.


[Modified by 93JetJocky, 7:00 PM 6/17/2004]

hcvone

The instructions I know on my site are always a work in process, again the amount of product used is very important.

Z Factor

While I'm not disagreeing with your overall opinion, how can you say the cost is "about the same"?

If you calculate the cost of an 8oz bottle of Z2/Z5 plus the ZFX, plus the shipping cost, how can you make that statement?

7thgeneration

Now everyone chant together NXT...NXT...NXT...NXT...

Waynestowels

Actually, Z-2 applications are much less expensive...,

NXT = 18oz $14.99
I use 1.5 oz to cover my car.
12 applications per bottle
3 weeks durability..., but lets give it the benifit of the doubt and say 4 weeks(I realize everyone does not live in the same hot, humid climate as I do)
That would give you 1 year protection per bottle = $1.25 per month

Z-2 = 8oz - $12.95 + ZFX $19.95
1/4oz will completely cover my car.
32 applications per bottle
No less than 3 months durability
8 years protection per bottle = less than .35 per application...,
Not to mention the time saved during that period not having to apply wax- again, and again, and again...,
I would much rather spend my time doing a wash and enjoying the ride

Just my view on the "math"
1 application will last no less than 3 months

Z Factor

Ok, first I find it hard to believe that only 1/4 of an ounce will cover the entire car. Secondly, while I agree that Zaino is a synthetic and will last much longer than wax, you can't calculate the maximum it will last because many people will want to apply it more often due to their tastes, driving conditions, regional weather etc. So the only way to compare costs is apples to apples, i.e. 12 times per year for both products, despite how long they may last to get a cost comparison. If you differ, please give it to me logically.

Also, don't forget to add S&H cost to Zaino's price break down.