deep staging: should I try it?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Deltona (son of Deland and DAYTONA) FL
deep staging: should I try it?
with the L48 in my car, it's hard to cut a good light staging shallow and leaving on the last yellow. We're talking 2.2-2.3 60' times with no wheel spin.
The 3:36 gears don't help, neither does the 1800 stall converter, but I'm stuck with it for now.
should I change the light I leave on?
Will deep staging help?
The 3:36 gears don't help, neither does the 1800 stall converter, but I'm stuck with it for now.
should I change the light I leave on?
Will deep staging help?
Last edited by isosceles; Aug 13, 2005 at 08:35 PM.
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I may be all wrong here so other's feel free to chime in if I am. But I don't think where you stage is going to make much difference on your 60 foot time. It may change your RT some though. 
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YES where he stages will have a BIG effect on his 60' time..
If you are shallow stage & you 60' is 2.2 by going in DEEP you will slow your 60' time to (app) 2.3 - 2.4
As for reaction time if you leave at the EXACT same time your reaction time will be quicker. (by going deep your tire is 6-7" closer to the start beam)
Also if you go in DEEP your 1/4 mile ET will be about .15 slower..
If you are shallow stage & you 60' is 2.2 by going in DEEP you will slow your 60' time to (app) 2.3 - 2.4
As for reaction time if you leave at the EXACT same time your reaction time will be quicker. (by going deep your tire is 6-7" closer to the start beam)
Also if you go in DEEP your 1/4 mile ET will be about .15 slower..
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I am not doubting you, but as I understand it none of your elapsed times start until you break the starting beam. So it seems to me no matter where you stage you are still behind the beam. So I don't see how where you stage would change your sixty foot time. You say it does and give some examples of how it changes. Could you explain to me why my reasoning is flawed. Then I will understand. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Red96Coupe
YES where he stages will have a BIG effect on his 60' time..
If you are shallow stage & you 60' is 2.2 by going in DEEP you will slow your 60' time to (app) 2.3 - 2.4
As for reaction time if you leave at the EXACT same time your reaction time will be quicker. (by going deep your tire is 6-7" closer to the start beam)
Also if you go in DEEP your 1/4 mile ET will be about .15 slower..
If you are shallow stage & you 60' is 2.2 by going in DEEP you will slow your 60' time to (app) 2.3 - 2.4
As for reaction time if you leave at the EXACT same time your reaction time will be quicker. (by going deep your tire is 6-7" closer to the start beam)
Also if you go in DEEP your 1/4 mile ET will be about .15 slower..
Last edited by Special K; Aug 13, 2005 at 09:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
Is it because you are going a little faster or a little slower when you break the beam depending on where you stage?
Going in deep you eat up most that 6" so you don't have that running start.
I lose close to 2 tenths ET when I deep stage but I only do it on a pro tree
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Melting Slicks
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yeah, I really don't care about 60' times or ET's as long as they are consistent. If I did, I would've never pulled the 383 out.
Since my car is so slow, I'm trying to improve my R/T's.
I was just using my 60' times to illustrate how slow my car starts moving. I'm not even spinning the tires!
Since my car is so slow, I'm trying to improve my R/T's.
I was just using my 60' times to illustrate how slow my car starts moving. I'm not even spinning the tires!
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Originally Posted by isosceles
I was just using my 60' times to illustrate how slow my car starts moving. I'm not even spinning the tires!
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Originally Posted by Special K
That works. It's much safer than going deep.
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
While it may be safer than going deep, it will be harder to dial the car because if the difference between shallow and deep is .10 then if the bumps are not perfectly executed each time, then it makes it that much harder to dial the car.
that's what worries me about bumping in.
If I don't do it exactly the same way every time, I'll end up with a different R/T AND a different ET.
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
While it may be safer than going deep, it will be harder to dial the car because if the difference between shallow and deep is .10 then if the bumps are not perfectly executed each time, then it makes it that much harder to dial the car.
You can also bump the rpm before launch and you'll also see an improved RT. You can also start depressing the accelerator very gently on the first yellow. You'll also see an improved RT.
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Originally Posted by Special K
You can also start depressing the accelerator very gently on the first yellow. You'll also see an improved RT.
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If your cars reaction time is very slow ,why leave on the last YELLOW????
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From: Deltona (son of Deland and DAYTONA) FL
Originally Posted by mackeyred96
If your cars reaction time is very slow ,why leave on the last YELLOW????
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Originally Posted by isosceles
Stage shallow and leave on second yellow?
