Staging Lane Cooling Advice
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Staging Lane Cooling Advice
What do you C5 drag racers do to aid cooling between rounds in the pits and staging lanes? I really don't care for the dripping plastic bags of ice sitting on the intake plenum like my Mustang friends. I note our fans don't run when the motors are off like some other cars. Can this be programmed? Would it help at all? Other tips and tricks?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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I am currently using nothing.
If you go round robin you won't have time to cool the car anyway so it is best to pay attention to the temp of the water and trying to get it consistent even if it means you have to let it get higher in the first round to match what you would have if you go round robin.
For turning the fan on , there is a relay under the hood you can trip to run the fans. I have done that too.
Programming an earlier turn on time for the fans with a lower temp stat will also keep it cooler.
Some folks have used a "racing cooler" which is a gel filled bag on the intake.
If you go round robin you won't have time to cool the car anyway so it is best to pay attention to the temp of the water and trying to get it consistent even if it means you have to let it get higher in the first round to match what you would have if you go round robin.
For turning the fan on , there is a relay under the hood you can trip to run the fans. I have done that too.
Programming an earlier turn on time for the fans with a lower temp stat will also keep it cooler.
Some folks have used a "racing cooler" which is a gel filled bag on the intake.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by BIGMAC
What do you C5 drag racers do to aid cooling between rounds in the pits and staging lanes? I really don't care for the dripping plastic bags of ice sitting on the intake plenum like my Mustang friends. I note our fans don't run when the motors are off like some other cars. Can this be programmed? Would it help at all? Other tips and tricks?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
To answer your question you can program your fans to come on earlier or hook up a manual switch.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by REDGAR
I am currently using nothing.
If you go round robin you won't have time to cool the car anyway so it is best to pay attention to the temp of the water and trying to get it consistent even if it means you have to let it get higher in the first round to match what you would have if you go round robin.
For turning the fan on , there is a relay under the hood you can trip to run the fans. I have done that too.
Programming an earlier turn on time for the fans with a lower temp stat will also keep it cooler.
Some folks have used a "racing cooler" which is a gel filled bag on the intake.
If you go round robin you won't have time to cool the car anyway so it is best to pay attention to the temp of the water and trying to get it consistent even if it means you have to let it get higher in the first round to match what you would have if you go round robin.
For turning the fan on , there is a relay under the hood you can trip to run the fans. I have done that too.
Programming an earlier turn on time for the fans with a lower temp stat will also keep it cooler.
Some folks have used a "racing cooler" which is a gel filled bag on the intake.
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From: Somers NY
I have a 160 thermostat, & a switch to manually turn on the fans with the motor off... I also have use Racing Cooler gel filled bags.. I manage to get my car down to 165 - 170 before each run... even at the last race when I went 6 rounds.
The trick to getting it cool is get in the lanes & shut the engine off.. & let the fan run.. & DON'T start the engine for more then 5-10 sec at a time... when the line moves forward.. just wait until there are 10+ spaces.. start it hit the gas & shut it off instantly.. & coast ahead.
When you get to going under the tower also leave the engine OFF..until you can pull up 4-5 spots & again shut it off quick.. I leave it off while the pair in front of me are doing their burnout.. & only start it when the kid under the tower signals me to go to the water box..
Bottom keep it OFF as much as you can..
The trick to getting it cool is get in the lanes & shut the engine off.. & let the fan run.. & DON'T start the engine for more then 5-10 sec at a time... when the line moves forward.. just wait until there are 10+ spaces.. start it hit the gas & shut it off instantly.. & coast ahead.
When you get to going under the tower also leave the engine OFF..until you can pull up 4-5 spots & again shut it off quick.. I leave it off while the pair in front of me are doing their burnout.. & only start it when the kid under the tower signals me to go to the water box..
Bottom keep it OFF as much as you can..
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From: The Top of Utah
I run my fan between rounds. Also I spray the outside of the radiator with water from a garden sprayer. Every 10 to 15 minutes I start the car, for up to a minute, to circulate the water that has just been cooled, out of the radiator and into the engine, which moves hotter water from the engine into the radiator for the continuing cooling routine. It's amazing how cool you can get your engine after 3 or 4 cycles.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I run my fan between rounds. Also I spray the outside of the radiator with water from a garden sprayer. Every 10 to 15 minutes I start the car, for up to a minute, to circulate the water that has just been cooled, out of the radiator and into the engine, which moves hotter water from the engine into the radiator for the continuing cooling routine. It's amazing how cool you can get your engine after 3 or 4 cycles.
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From: Somers NY
Originally Posted by Special K
I think you and JP are nuts! Nice guys, but nuts. Why go to all that trouble when all you have to do is run hot? Just makes no sense to me. If we were running various stock classes heads up then I could agree.
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Originally Posted by Special K
Looks like we posted at the same time. How do you trip the relay?
I don't do it anymore though. Just one more thing I don't have to worry about any more
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by Red96Coupe
Bob... your a betting man... I'll make a friendly wager Next race (Sept 3rd) we'll both make 3 time shots...you run your car anyway you want.. I'll run mine like I have been... The winner will be whoever has the "Smallest difference between the slowest & fastest run"
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From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Red96Coupe
Bob... your a betting man... I'll make a friendly wager Next race (Sept 3rd) we'll both make 3 time shots...you run your car anyway you want.. I'll run mine like I have been... The winner will be whoever has the "Smallest difference between the slowest & fastest run"
You have nothing to gain by betting, just go and run your race.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by mackeyred96
John, don't waste your time. You don't have to prove anything to any one. You have more round wins than anyone in CC history. Your win record speakes for it's self, if cooling the car downs works for you who cars what other "OPINIONS" are.
You have nothing to gain by betting, just go and run your race.
You have nothing to gain by betting, just go and run your race.
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From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Special K
I think JP was talking to me. You got money riding on this? John, you're starting to be a pain in the azz.
Hey Bob, just who the F--- do you think you are????????
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From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Special K
I'm the guy that JP was talking to. Do you ever mind your own business?
I thought this was an open forum where we can exchange ideas and views.
Have you changed the rules on that?????
If you only want to talk one on one maybe you should that it off line.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by mackeyred96
I thought this was an open forum where we can exchange ideas and views.
Have you changed the rules on that?????
If you only want to talk one on one maybe you should that it off line.
Have you changed the rules on that?????
If you only want to talk one on one maybe you should that it off line.
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From: ETown
Originally Posted by Special K
I think JP was talking to me.
& Mackey was talking to JP whats your point?
I prefer to keep run the car hot myself since after going a few rounds time to cool down can become an issue, especially when running more than one class... plus it's just one less thing to worry about
However, I would not bet against JP
I think the "real" thinkg here is both methods can work well. It's just a matter of which one you prefer. Jp's cool down method works for him, but one thing nobody picked up on is He's only cooling the car down to 165-170 which is not very cool. People will often try to get to the burnout at 140-150 which takes longer to do.
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From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by 1996LT1
& Mackey was talking to JP whats your point?
I prefer to keep run the car hot myself since after going a few rounds time to cool down can become an issue, especially when running more than one class... plus it's just one less thing to worry about
However, I would not bet against JP
I think the "real" thinkg here is both methods can work well. It's just a matter of which one you prefer. Jp's cool down method works for him, but one thing nobody picked up on is He's only cooling the car down to 165-170 which is not very cool. People will often try to get to the burnout at 140-150 which takes longer to do.
I prefer to keep run the car hot myself since after going a few rounds time to cool down can become an issue, especially when running more than one class... plus it's just one less thing to worry about
However, I would not bet against JP
I think the "real" thinkg here is both methods can work well. It's just a matter of which one you prefer. Jp's cool down method works for him, but one thing nobody picked up on is He's only cooling the car down to 165-170 which is not very cool. People will often try to get to the burnout at 140-150 which takes longer to do.
Read what JP posted. I didn't say a thing about his method not working. I said it didn't make any sense to me. Still doesn't.
JP decided to come back and smack me around a little. I appreciated it. Guys like him make life interesting. He offered to make a friendly wager. To me that's anything under a hundred. I don't know what it means to him. I accepted his offer and asked for clarification.
That's when someone else decided they had to defend JP's honor. Not sure what that was all about.
Back to the wager. I'm waiting on JP to make the next move. He started this and I'm going to finish it. He claims he can make three runs and cover a spread closer than I can. He can't. He knows it. That's why he's being so quiet.
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From: ETown
Originally Posted by Special K
That's why he's being so quiet.
Don't count on it... At his age he has to take naps in the afternoon so he has enough energy to eat dinner. He'll be back in a few hours or less