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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Okay so the videos of the Corvette Challenge filling my hard drive fast. Only 30 GB left.

I went out and bought a hard drive for videos and cannot install it because I do not have and open EIDE 40 connecter.

Here is the talk talk. Apparently my motherboard is set for SATA which I was not even aware existed. I can add mulitple SATA Drives.

Is there a way to add 40 pin EIDE for an ATA drive with a car or something?
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While on the hard drive tech talk topic.....I have another issue that has been bugging me.

I have an external drive (really internal in a box) that I use for back up that works either 1394 or usb. 1394 is very unstable and I keep losing my connection. USB is 2.0 I bleleive but appears to be slower so I rather use 1394. I keep dropping the connection when I transer a lot of data via the 1394.

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Okay so the videos of the Corvette Challenge filling my hard drive fast. Only 30 GB left.

I went out and bought a hard drive for videos and cannot install it because I do not have and open EIDE 40 connecter.

Here is the talk talk. Apparently my motherboard is set for SATA which I was not even aware existed. I can add mulitple SATA Drives.

Is there a way to add 40 pin EIDE for an ATA drive with a car or something?
cant you slave the drive with the second pin out connector on the existing cable?
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
While on the hard drive tech talk topic.....I have another issue that has been bugging me.

I have an external drive (really internal in a box) that I use for back up that works either 1394 or usb. 1394 is very unstable and I keep losing my connection. USB is 2.0 I bleleive but appears to be slower so I rather use 1394. I keep dropping the connection when I transer a lot of data via the 1394.

Any ideas?
can you manually slow the transfer speed of the 1394?
I dunno anything about the firewire - but everything that came before it seemed to work more reliably if you slowed it down a notch
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
Okay so the videos of the Corvette Challenge filling my hard drive fast. Only 30 GB left.

I went out and bought a hard drive for videos and cannot install it because I do not have and open EIDE 40 connecter.

Here is the talk talk. Apparently my motherboard is set for SATA which I was not even aware existed. I can add mulitple SATA Drives.

Is there a way to add 40 pin EIDE for an ATA drive with a car or something?
There is a PCI card made by Promise Technology

Check the link below, this one will let you connect two SATA devices and one ATA device. You should be able to pic this up at a Staples store.
http://www.promise.com/product/produ...roduct_id=138#

I believe I have one of these cards somewhere, if i come across it i will reach out to you.
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
While on the hard drive tech talk topic.....I have another issue that has been bugging me.

I have an external drive (really internal in a box) that I use for back up that works either 1394 or usb. 1394 is very unstable and I keep losing my connection. USB is 2.0 I bleleive but appears to be slower so I rather use 1394. I keep dropping the connection when I transer a lot of data via the 1394.

Any ideas?
Edgar, provide me with more details on this drive...make, model etc, The connection should not be dropping
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Default Good Read While on the subject of HDD SATA

Virtually every PC today relies on the venerable ATA (Advanced Technology Attachment) interface to connect hard drives, CD drives, and other types of drives. Spurred by the relentless demands for faster drive performance and greater reliability, the ATA standard (also known as IDE), which has a rated connection speed of 3.3 MBps, has undergone many advances. The Ultra ATA (dubbed Ultra ATA/133) interface can pass 16 bits of parallel data between a drive and PC at speeds of up to 133 MBps.


Such parallel-signal schemes, however, are reaching the practical limits of current cable, drive, and controller electronics. To achieve even faster data transfer rates, drive manufacturers are turning to a serial scheme called Serial ATA (SATA). Though it may seem counterintuitive that a serial technology (which transfers data one bit at a time rather than transferring multiple data bits simultaneously, as a parallel scheme does) could outpace a parallel one, that's exactly what SATA does; it transfers data at a much faster rate and more efficiently. Now that SATA drives, add-in controller cards, and most importantly, PC chipsets are finally available, you'll want to understand the benefits of this technology.

SATA typically handles data transfers of up to 150 MBps and in the future can be scaled up to 300 MBps and beyond. Some manufacturers predict speeds as high as 600 MBps. SATA offers a speedier boot process and faster loading of programs and data. But perhaps the best part of the new technology is SATA's simpler cabling.

If you've ever looked inside a PC, you've seen the wide, gray, 40-pin ribbon cable that daisy-chains master/slave drives to the ATA controller port. Not only were those 40 wires laying close together a potential source of interference, but routing the bulky cable made the placement of drives difficult. Moreover, the traditional cables are notorious for disturbing air flow within PCs. SATA uses thin cables that route easily and don't block a PC's cooling system, thus preventing hot spots and improving overall system reliability.

Connecting SATA drives is easier, too. Each drive connects to the host PC via an individual cable; the host PC treats all drives as master devices, eliminating the jumper settings, which have frustrated users for years. This greatly eases installation and configuration. Finally, the cables can be longer. Current parallel ATA cables max out at 18 inches, while SATA cables can be as long as 39.4 inches (1 meter). That's good for high-end boxes that use full-tower cases.

You will also find adding or replacing drives easier with SATA. You won't have to power down your PC before connecting a new drive, because SATA allows for hot-pluggable connections, so you can add or remove SATA drives while your PC is running. The connectors are also keyed (that is, designed for one-way insertion), so you don't need to worry about accidentally reversing a connection.

SATA is software-compatible with ATA, so you don't need any special drivers or OS upgrades to support the new drives; the SATA controller does the conversion between the drive and host PC. Consequently, SATA drives can coexist on the same system with parallel ATA devices.
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
Okay so the videos of the Corvette Challenge filling my hard drive fast. Only 30 GB left.

I went out and bought a hard drive for videos and cannot install it because I do not have and open EIDE 40 connecter.

Here is the talk talk. Apparently my motherboard is set for SATA which I was not even aware existed. I can add mulitple SATA Drives.

Is there a way to add 40 pin EIDE for an ATA drive with a car or something?
I found one PCI card with two 40 pin IDE controller connections

Call me.......
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Virtually every PC today relies on the venerable ATA (Advanced Technology Attachment) interface to connect hard drives, CD drives, and other types of drives. Spurred by the relentless demands for faster drive performance and greater reliability, the ATA standard (also known as IDE), which has a rated connection speed of 3.3 MBps, has undergone many advances. The Ultra ATA (dubbed Ultra ATA/133) interface can pass 16 bits of parallel data between a drive and PC at speeds of up to 133 MBps.


Such parallel-signal schemes, however, are reaching the practical limits of current cable, drive, and controller electronics. To achieve even faster data transfer rates, drive manufacturers are turning to a serial scheme called Serial ATA (SATA). Though it may seem counterintuitive that a serial technology (which transfers data one bit at a time rather than transferring multiple data bits simultaneously, as a parallel scheme does) could outpace a parallel one, that's exactly what SATA does; it transfers data at a much faster rate and more efficiently. Now that SATA drives, add-in controller cards, and most importantly, PC chipsets are finally available, you'll want to understand the benefits of this technology.

SATA typically handles data transfers of up to 150 MBps and in the future can be scaled up to 300 MBps and beyond. Some manufacturers predict speeds as high as 600 MBps. SATA offers a speedier boot process and faster loading of programs and data. But perhaps the best part of the new technology is SATA's simpler cabling.

If you've ever looked inside a PC, you've seen the wide, gray, 40-pin ribbon cable that daisy-chains master/slave drives to the ATA controller port. Not only were those 40 wires laying close together a potential source of interference, but routing the bulky cable made the placement of drives difficult. Moreover, the traditional cables are notorious for disturbing air flow within PCs. SATA uses thin cables that route easily and don't block a PC's cooling system, thus preventing hot spots and improving overall system reliability.

Connecting SATA drives is easier, too. Each drive connects to the host PC via an individual cable; the host PC treats all drives as master devices, eliminating the jumper settings, which have frustrated users for years. This greatly eases installation and configuration. Finally, the cables can be longer. Current parallel ATA cables max out at 18 inches, while SATA cables can be as long as 39.4 inches (1 meter). That's good for high-end boxes that use full-tower cases.

You will also find adding or replacing drives easier with SATA. You won't have to power down your PC before connecting a new drive, because SATA allows for hot-pluggable connections, so you can add or remove SATA drives while your PC is running. The connectors are also keyed (that is, designed for one-way insertion), so you don't need to worry about accidentally reversing a connection.

SATA is software-compatible with ATA, so you don't need any special drivers or OS upgrades to support the new drives; the SATA controller does the conversion between the drive and host PC. Consequently, SATA drives can coexist on the same system with parallel ATA devices.
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Thanks for the info Jerry.

Both outputs of the 40 I have are used, one dvd recorder and one just cd recorder. I tried to undo the cd recorder but the drive would not wake up.

Jerry I will trade you that card for you Champions Super Car jacket Ned dropped at my house tonight.
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HOLY S**T I am impressed. From now on it's Mr. Boogieman

I don't know man, I think Boogieman might have copied and pasted that stuff
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[QUOTE=REDGAR]Thanks for the info Jerry.


Jerry I will trade you that card for you Champions Super Car jacket Ned dropped at my house tonight


good things come to those who wait

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[QUOTE=black knight 06]
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Thanks for the info Jerry.


Jerry I will trade you that card for you Champions Super Car jacket Ned dropped at my house tonight


good things come to those who wait
problem is now he wants to trade......go figure
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you gonna answer your phone today Jerry?
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
Thanks for the info Jerry.

Both outputs of the 40 I have are used, one dvd recorder and one just cd recorder. I tried to undo the cd recorder but the drive would not wake up.

Jerry I will trade you that card for you Champions Super Car jacket Ned dropped at my house tonight.
Edgar, if you want to do the backup using the extra drive you purchased you can simply disconnect on of the drives; either the dvd burner or cd recorder. First determine which of the drives is the master by looking at the back of the drives, It should have a small plastic jumper that can be move to Master, Slave, Cable Select. Remove the drive that is configured as the Slave and make sure the extra drive you want use is set to Slave also. Reboot the box and it should detect it. of course this is only a temp solution......
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Thanks Jerry. Too late for me to do anything this week. Maybe next week.
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Edgar,

Did you try wiggling the Finnegan Pin?

Sometimes they come loose and you lose your connection?
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Edgar,

Did you try wiggling the Finnegan Pin?

Sometimes they come loose and you lose your connection?
not sure what that is but if you are serious I have pulled it and reconnect serveral times as well as tried different firewire sockets
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