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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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The rule books for next year are beginning to arrive and I thought I would post a couple of interesting changes...

First, for those with generators, whether in a motorhome or freestanding, you will have to vent the exhaust upwards above the roof line of the trailer or vehicle...

Second, no "aids" of any kind will be allowed to block the tree...this includes devices or tape on your helmet or windshield or even holding up cardboard, plastic or your hand....
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Fuzzy, what does it say about open faced helmets and et restriction? I am hearing 9.99 and faster need full face in 08

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I spoke with NHRA yesterday at the PRI show. There is an update coming already, for the way we mount the harness (lap belt) to the seat. I don't know what classes will be affected by this.
Ah the beginning of the new season, with some new rules.
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Dan those two things you listed sound ludicris.

So I have an open trailer, i put my generater on the trailer and bamn exhaust is now over the roof of the car but now the exhuast is in my face....LOL

A rule agains tape on my helmet...LOL...what it came with the tape or a shortened visor....it is only a matter of time before someone sells a visor or even helmet specific for drag racing with a smaller visor.

Cannot wait to get mine....I have table that needs a leg propped
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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..... those two things you listed sound ludicris.....
..... what do you EXPECT from Glendora?
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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The generator rule just sounds ridiculous.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette Chris
The generator rule just sounds ridiculous.
and it might be a direct violation of federal DOT rules and regs
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http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...7671075943/p/1

Professional Funny Car teams are out there, WAITING for new F/C rules regarding chassis after problems in '07 w/ Medlen & Force, so they can build legal AND safe chassis for a season that begins in just 8 weeks, but NHRA uses their infinite (infantile? ) wisdom to come-up with this?


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Originally Posted by Corvette Chris
The generator rule just sounds ridiculous.
It is more of a problem than some might imagine.....recently there was a whole family killed by fumes from an neighboring generator at night..........while the reasoning is not perfectly clear or examples given as to why the rule was made........there are sometimes reasons these things are put in place. I suspect that many here do not stay overnight at events so the whole picture might not be clear.
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Originally Posted by ski_dwn_it
It is more of a problem than some might imagine.....recently there was a whole family killed by fumes from an neighboring generator at night..........while the reasoning is not perfectly clear or examples given as to why the rule was made........there are sometimes reasons these things are put in place. I suspect that many here do not stay overnight at events so the whole picture might not be clear.
people have died from generator exhaust in motor homes for decades, all cases that I know of - could have been avoided through education and inspections of the exhaust
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
and it might be a direct violation of federal DOT rules and regs
The NHRA rule is a violation, or how I feel about it is a violation?
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
Fuzzy, what does it say about open faced helmets and et restriction? I am hearing 9.99 and faster need full face in 08
You are correct, sir...9.99 or 135+ mph will require a full face helmet in ALL vehicles...Snell 2000 or newer...
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Originally Posted by REDGAR
Dan those two things you listed sound ludicris.

So I have an open trailer, i put my generater on the trailer and bamn exhaust is now over the roof of the car but now the exhuast is in my face....LOL

A rule agains tape on my helmet...LOL...what it came with the tape or a shortened visor....it is only a matter of time before someone sells a visor or even helmet specific for drag racing with a smaller visor.

Cannot wait to get mine....I have table that needs a leg propped
I know they do but the NHRA in their infinite wisdom deems them both safety issues...I actually understand how a generator blowing carbon monoxide onto someone's sleeping quarters all night long might be an issue...how the rule will treat stand alone units we will have to wait and see...

As for the "blinders" rule, it sounds to me like some folks whined about certain other racers who won a lot using some sort of blinder...naturally Glendora sees this as reason enough to make a rule change...would anyone like to bet that these same folks who win a lot using blinders will still win a lot not using them?...how the heck is a piece of tape on your windshield or holding up a piece of cardboard at the tree a safety issue...NHRA = as usual...

BTW, can anyone who already has their 2008 rule book tell me where the rule change for the shut off switch is?...Bradenton has been telling everyone there will be a new NHRA rule requiring a push/pull switch but I can't find it in the rule book?...anyone know where it is?..thanks
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
people have died from generator exhaust in motor homes for decades, all cases that I know of - could have been avoided through education and inspections of the exhaust
One would think they could come up with some sort of exhaust filter system that would take care of this problem versus the goofy NHRA solution...
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dice
One would think they could come up with some sort of exhaust filter system that would take care of this problem versus the goofy NHRA solution...
Not taking a side in this one as I have no dog in this fight. That said, it's much easier for NHRA to make the rule as they have than to try and get the manufacturers of the generators to come up with a safe alternative. I believe they are trying to keep everyone alive since carbon monoxide poisoning appears to be a real problem.
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Not taking a side in this one as I have no dog in this fight. That said, it's much easier for NHRA to make the rule as they have than to try and get the manufacturers of the generators to come up with a safe alternative. I believe they are trying to keep everyone alive since carbon monoxide poisoning appears to be a real problem.
it is the real problem - but look at this point of view, you purchase a 2008 Motor home for 150k and it has a 10kw genset installed at the factory and it meets all DOT standards.

I guess I should market a hose kit to relocate at the tracks to sell for fitting the NHRA rules
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
it is the real problem - but look at this point of view, you purchase a 2008 Motor home for 150k and it has a 10kw genset installed at the factory and it meets all DOT standards.

I guess I should market a hose kit to relocate at the tracks to sell for fitting the NHRA rules
BUT I think they are looking at ONE solution across the board without giving any consideration to motor homes that might have a properly installed, vented, safe system.
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
it is the real problem - but look at this point of view, you purchase a 2008 Motor home for 150k and it has a 10kw genset installed at the factory and it meets all DOT standards.

I guess I should market a hose kit to relocate at the tracks to sell for fitting the NHRA rules
there are pipes available at most RV dealers, IHRA has had this rule for a while. Not really a big deal. The full face helmet is a rule at 9.99 and the blinder deal still needs some clarification. Don't believe that? go check class racer.com. NHRA is bad about ambiguous rules that are open to interpretation, although someone was run over at vegas by someone who had a blinder on. Also it makes it damn near impossible for the starter to get your attention without walking downtrack or out in front of you
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I just got mine and...it was mixed with all the newpapers I don't want...LOL.

Thumbed through it....you know read literally, we have a lot of illegal race cars.

The axle loops and trans sheilds are point that I think impact me and I dunno who to get them address.

I wanted to try Super Street this year or next but would bet I would not pass tech.
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I run into the exhaust thing at ski tournaments. Many bring RV's. Sometimes we have to pack them in. Without the exhaust extension, all the carbon monoxide alarms go crazy.

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/s...m/skunum=14041
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