Carroll's Rod & Racecraft bolt-in straight axle kit.
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This is the original solid rear... I have been running it for 3 years now... and a handfull of guys have been running this setup for awhile.. leo's the best in the business.. Hands down.....
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Yes Leo had the first solid rear conversion. However as the last thread go around confirmed, I had the first complete BOLT-IN version. Which if you compare the two there is no comparison.
With mine you have COMPLETE adjustability which allows for all the adjustments just as if you had a true 4 link setup in your car. Why do you have all the adjustability- because it uses real 4 link mounts both front and rear. This allows users to track dial in their IC to take it from standing on the bumper to merely lifting off a few inches; and to find the sweet-spot inbetween.
In addition, you get full control over your ride height with adjustable shock mounts. This further allows fine tuning of your Instant Center to better optimize your traction specific to your car's needs. Even to specific track conditions.
Best of all my setup utilizes NO CROSSMEMBER which makes the setup more streetworthy. I ran a cross member on my car at the start and it hit everything on the road and scrapped a ton during normal driving conditions. On the strip it was fine, but not for the street - I hated it and I came up with a solution which is incorportated in each of my setups.
Some might ask why does one need to tune the suspension. The answer is simple - you need to be able to dial in the suspension to your cars HP and weight bias to get an effective launch.
This all might not mean a hill of beans if you live next to the supplier of the rear and can wait weeks for him to physically remove and reweld brackets to your new setting....but when your across the country or as I have already sent a setup of mine to Europe, this sorta back and forth BS is unfeasible.
Those that do there homework will see the huge difference in the two so RaceX70CC - downhill is not the least bit worried and is actually pretty amused because he know the story behind a few comments here.
I have raced these cars for the last 8 years and my setup has EVERYTHING I always wished was out there and could NEVER find.
With mine you have COMPLETE adjustability which allows for all the adjustments just as if you had a true 4 link setup in your car. Why do you have all the adjustability- because it uses real 4 link mounts both front and rear. This allows users to track dial in their IC to take it from standing on the bumper to merely lifting off a few inches; and to find the sweet-spot inbetween.
In addition, you get full control over your ride height with adjustable shock mounts. This further allows fine tuning of your Instant Center to better optimize your traction specific to your car's needs. Even to specific track conditions.
Best of all my setup utilizes NO CROSSMEMBER which makes the setup more streetworthy. I ran a cross member on my car at the start and it hit everything on the road and scrapped a ton during normal driving conditions. On the strip it was fine, but not for the street - I hated it and I came up with a solution which is incorportated in each of my setups.
Some might ask why does one need to tune the suspension. The answer is simple - you need to be able to dial in the suspension to your cars HP and weight bias to get an effective launch.
This all might not mean a hill of beans if you live next to the supplier of the rear and can wait weeks for him to physically remove and reweld brackets to your new setting....but when your across the country or as I have already sent a setup of mine to Europe, this sorta back and forth BS is unfeasible.
Those that do there homework will see the huge difference in the two so RaceX70CC - downhill is not the least bit worried and is actually pretty amused because he know the story behind a few comments here.
I have raced these cars for the last 8 years and my setup has EVERYTHING I always wished was out there and could NEVER find.
Last edited by ski_dwn_it; 02-06-2008 at 03:05 PM.
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Musta hit a nerve...
touchy, aren't we?
Seriously though... there's been enough drama about the "where this concept actually came from, blah blah blah..", that we don't need to regurgitate it here yet again.
And the "top secret, only available to the secret circle" pics of your setup... please... it's not like anybody is actually going to poach your "idea" and make money from it. Any competent fabricator can figure it out for themselves.
I have no dog in the fight, btw... When (not if) I decide to solid axle my '87, I'll simply backhalf it and be done. If Leo or you want to make money at solid axle conversions, have at it. I wish you all the best.
Seriously though... there's been enough drama about the "where this concept actually came from, blah blah blah..", that we don't need to regurgitate it here yet again.
And the "top secret, only available to the secret circle" pics of your setup... please... it's not like anybody is actually going to poach your "idea" and make money from it. Any competent fabricator can figure it out for themselves.
I have no dog in the fight, btw... When (not if) I decide to solid axle my '87, I'll simply backhalf it and be done. If Leo or you want to make money at solid axle conversions, have at it. I wish you all the best.
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touchy, aren't we?
Seriously though... there's been enough drama about the "where this concept actually came from, blah blah blah..", that we don't need to regurgitate it here yet again.
And the "top secret, only available to the secret circle" pics of your setup... please... it's not like anybody is actually going to poach your "idea" and make money from it. Any competent fabricator can figure it out for themselves.
I have no dog in the fight, btw... When (not if) I decide to solid axle my '87, I'll simply backhalf it and be done. If Leo or you want to make money at solid axle conversions, have at it. I wish you all the best.
Seriously though... there's been enough drama about the "where this concept actually came from, blah blah blah..", that we don't need to regurgitate it here yet again.
And the "top secret, only available to the secret circle" pics of your setup... please... it's not like anybody is actually going to poach your "idea" and make money from it. Any competent fabricator can figure it out for themselves.
I have no dog in the fight, btw... When (not if) I decide to solid axle my '87, I'll simply backhalf it and be done. If Leo or you want to make money at solid axle conversions, have at it. I wish you all the best.
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I was hoping you didnt take that the wrong way... not enough to delete the post though.
It could have been explosive!!!
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1929393
Again main differences are: mine is 100% adjustable with real 4 link brackets (both front and rear). Allows complete freedom to make necessary adjustments that are required to dial in a car. The competitions offers none so you are stuck with whatever they give you. Complete bolt in, with all fasteners, no cross member to drag on ground, brake mounts supplied to allow stock brakes to work (aftermarkets available if requested), wishbone locator that doesn't influence the rear centering when suspension travels.
Again those that do their homework and learn a little about 4 link setups will see the HUGE difference in the two. Also I suspect the other will start to look like mine in the future which tells you something right there.
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thanks
Thanks for the props guys...... Bob and I were waiting a little longer to reveal our new "Bolt-In" straight axle C4 conversion......
and yes Jesse those that do their homework will know the difference.....
a Chassis guy that may know how to and where to install a four link w/a wishbone would be a great start......
those that wish to can call us or pm us at the shop.. thank you!
p.s. our new website will be up shortly and our new email address is rodandrace@aol.com
p.s.s. our OLD bolt in had multiple adjustments , however the newly redsesigned bolt in it kit has more adjustments for those that wish to tinker with their setups....and as said before we have done quite a bit of R&D on this with multiple vehicles running well enough for those customers to recommend others....
thanks again...leo and bob
and yes Jesse those that do their homework will know the difference.....
a Chassis guy that may know how to and where to install a four link w/a wishbone would be a great start......
those that wish to can call us or pm us at the shop.. thank you!
p.s. our new website will be up shortly and our new email address is rodandrace@aol.com
p.s.s. our OLD bolt in had multiple adjustments , however the newly redsesigned bolt in it kit has more adjustments for those that wish to tinker with their setups....and as said before we have done quite a bit of R&D on this with multiple vehicles running well enough for those customers to recommend others....
thanks again...leo and bob
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p.s.s. our OLD bolt in had multiple adjustments , however the newly redsesigned bolt in it kit has more adjustments for those that wish to tinker with their setups....and as said before we have done quite a bit of R&D on this with multiple vehicles running well enough for those customers to recommend others....
thanks again...leo and bob
thanks again...leo and bob
PLEASE Disreguard my last statement
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I'm so jealous nice setup Eddie your parts are here. Trans has a sticker with it on the case.
Nice 100% BOLT-ON BBC C4 Neverlift/Carroll Rod & Race Headers , they are a work of art too , gotta clean them up ,
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Leo, I just sent a pm wanting to know if the setup is going to be available in a 9in. version. Also, I included a few other things I thought you may find interesting.