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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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I've been trying to get a decent pass out of my MT 275/40/17's all year, but it looks like it's not going to happen. I spin half way into first gear, completly through second into 3rd. So basically I go from mid way through 1st to 3rd.

I have about 670RWHP
The car is a C6 Z51 A6. Any recomendations on a wider tire, that will fit? I've varied my pressure, burnout, etc...
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What width rim are you using them on?
And how old are they?

Others have gotten that tire well into the 9s on low 1.4x sixty foots with some consistency but that's on a relatively well prepped track as well.
I know new tires are cheaper than suspension but you might need some Pfadt pieces under there (if you don't already have them that is).
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17X9.5 rims
They, along with the car, have 14 passes and about 200 street miles.

My 60's arent too bad, its after the 60 foot that they lose grip. My 60 foots are 1.5-1.6, but my 1/8 miles traps are down, which of course, is killing my overall ET's.
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
17X9.5 rims
They, along with the car, have 14 passes and about 200 street miles.
Ok good, rim width or tire age are definitely not the problem then.





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My 60's arent too bad, its after the 60 foot that they lose grip. My 60 foots are 1.5-1.6, but my 1/8 miles traps are down, which of course, is killing my overall ET's.
Yeah that's what I'd figured...part of what makes a C6 with a stock/near stock motor and a strong centri blower package so good is that it doesn't obliterate the tires on the initial hit but really comes on a little later. But of course when that happens in your car it's really taxing the tires/suspension.
You have a few choices that will still fit on that rim, the M/T 295-45-17s being a little wider and having a little more sidewall might help but being taller they will also steal some of the gearing away.
You can also try the 17" (26-11.5-17) ET Street bias plies which are taller than the 275s but a little shorter than the 295s but I would only use them with skinnies on the front.

Some will suggest just a swap to another 275-40-17 such as the Hoosiers but if the M/Ts really aren't hooking at all then I don't think the Hoosiers in that same size are going to be quite enough either.

As a last resort, keep these tires and just run slightly less boost (I know, that's not quite as fun LOL) and you might actually still go quicker due to better/full traction for the entire pass.
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Can you get a 315 hoosier under there? Just dont expect too many street miles out of them...
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Can you get a 315 hoosier under there? Just dont expect too many street miles out of them...
Yes, the Hoosier 315-35-17 is another possible option, it has the benefit of more width over a 275 but without sacrificing overall diameter/height (gearing).
I personally don't like a 315 on only a 9.5" wide rim but many have used that combo with great success.
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Can you get a 315 hoosier under there? Just dont expect too many street miles out of them...

Is that enough sidewall? I swap tires for the street so longevity doesn't bother me.
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I personally don't like a 315 on only a 9.5" wide rim but many have used that combo with great success.
Is it safe?
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Dave, if you switch for the street, then why dont you try a 26" ET street?
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Dave, if you switch for the street, then why dont you try a 26" ET street?
I ran them on my C5 and it was a bit squirly on the top end at 125, I'm a little nervous about 140+ without skinnies up front.

I should probably just buy a drag pack and be done with it, but I'm too cheap. If you know of any for a decent price, let me know..
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Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
Is that enough sidewall?
It is a relatively small sidewall but being a sticker/softer Hoosier drag radial does make up for much of that.
I know Gary (fastest bolt on C6 Z06) has used that combo in the past and achieved some great results.




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Is it safe?
It's definitely safe and even within 'spec' but just not ideal in my opinion. For 'maximum performance' (especially on a 670rwhp car) I think that tire really needs a 10"-11" wide rim.
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The other issue is that you always run at Beaver Springs, nice laid back track, but I doubt the track prep rivals any of the top east coast tracks.
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If your builds wouldn't make so much power this wouldn't be an issue! Lol....

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The other issue is that you always run at Beaver Springs, nice laid back track, but I doubt the track prep rivals any of the top east coast tracks.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
The other issue is that you always run at Beaver Springs, nice laid back track, but I doubt the track prep rivals any of the top east coast tracks.
Just a little traveling to a Cecil/Atco/Maple Grove/E-town could potentially solve much of the issue and do it with no tire change at all.


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Others have gotten that tire well into the 9s on low 1.4x sixty foots with some consistency but that's on a relatively well prepped track as well.
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If your builds wouldn't make so much power this wouldn't be an issue! Lol....

Um... sorry?
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Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
If your builds wouldn't make so much power this wouldn't be an issue! Lol....
Enough to get you in loads of trouble.
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Enough to get you in loads of trouble.
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I think you need more driver Dave!
Just kidding pal!
As mentioned, I'd get to a respectable track with very good prep (Atco,MIR) and see how she performs before you go hitting the panic button! The Hoosiers are better and lighter then the MT's.

Good luck!

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I think you need more driver Dave!
Just kidding pal!
As mentioned, I'd get to a respectable track with very good prep (Atco,MIR) and see how she performs before you go hitting the panic button! The Hoosiers are better and lighter then the MT's.

Good luck!

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If I get any traction at Etown, I'll try the Hoosiers. But you guys would be surprised at how good the traction is at Beaver Springs. Last year they resurfaced it and this past year bought new equipment to prep it. My previous car NEVER spun the tires there, but I had ET streets and a little less power. There are many, many cars that hit the 60 foot mark on two wheels as well.

Last week there was a 2003 Cobra that snapped off all 10 lug nuts off while launching, and that was on street tires. It was quite humerous as well.

I have tried Island Dragway with no better results, its no Etown, but at least its in Jersey!
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Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
If I get any traction at Etown, I'll try the Hoosiers. But you guys would be surprised at how good the traction is at Beaver Springs. Last year they resurfaced it and this past year bought new equipment to prep it. My previous car NEVER spun the tires there, but I had ET streets and a little less power. There are many, many cars that hit the 60 foot mark on two wheels as well.

Last week there was a 2003 Cobra that snapped off all 10 lug nuts off while launching, and that was on street tires. It was quite humerous as well.

I have tried Island Dragway with no better results, its no Etown, but at least its in Jersey!

Some do complain about the E-town prep, but trust me, Island is no E-town! Good to know about Beaver Springs though.
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