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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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So.... This happened last year. People paid to run for points. The deal was the top 16 got jackets. I know for a fact at the end of the year, E town changed their mind about who got a jacket. That's BS!

Is this happening again this year too?


If someone pays for something expecting to get something in return, and they don't, what is the next course of action?
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Capthuff
So.... This happened last year. People paid to run for points. The deal was the top 16 got jackets. I know for a fact at the end of the year, E town changed their mind about who got a jacket. That's BS!

Is this happening again this year too?


If someone pays for something expecting to get something in return, and they don't, what is the next course of action?
So does anyone want to ask me "Why I Didn't enter POINTS" this past yr ????

Hell I wish Redgar could check & see who missed the "fewest" races since 1999.. I bet I'm in the top 3....

But I saw the writing on the wall.... I'm taking wagers on if there will be a CC next yr....

I was one of the BEST supporters of the CC .. I funded the John Jr. Best Reaction Time for about 6 or 7 yrs until RP raised the sponsorship from $250 to $750 a yr for only ONE TROPHY that was for the best RT in the first round... So my $750 went to buy 1 trophy (about $4-$6 and RP kept the rest...

Yes Thank you to all the guys who helped me fund the $750 for the last three years I sponsored it.. Then I felt guilty taking $$ from them as it was not giving them any credit for it & I didn't have that amount of $$ for ONE Trophy per race...

The last few years RP still gave out a trophy for beat RT in the first round, but I had no $$ involvement in it...

However had RP kept my sponsorship at $250 I'd still be doing it & I "THINK" RP would still be making a few $$ as it was only 1 $6 trophy they gave out...

I'll continue to race in the CC but not sure if I'll enter the points... I wish the best to all who sponsor it & to all who race in the because it "WAS" one of the best attended classes EVER at RP we had over 100 cars in that class on a few times & over 75 almost EVERY time back a few yrs ago.....
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Sorry to hear only 4 jackets.

Did they communicate 16 jackets at the beginning of the season in the paper where they lay out all the details?
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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So does anyone want to ask me "Why I Didn't enter POINTS" this past yr ????

Hell I wish Redgar could check & see who missed the "fewest" races since 1999.. I bet I'm in the top 3....

But I saw the writing on the wall.... I'm taking wagers on if there will be a CC next yr....

I was one of the BEST supporters of the CC .. I funded the John Jr. Best Reaction Time for about 6 or 7 yrs until RP raised the sponsorship from $250 to $750 a yr for only ONE TROPHY that was for the best RT in the first round... So my $750 went to buy 1 trophy (about $4-$6 and RP kept the rest...

Yes Thank you to all the guys who helped me fund the $750 for the last three years I sponsored it.. Then I felt guilty taking $$ from them as it was not giving them any credit for it & I didn't have that amount of $$ for ONE Trophy per race...

The last few years RP still gave out a trophy for beat RT in the first round, but I had no $$ involvement in it...

However had RP kept my sponsorship at $250 I'd still be doing it & I "THINK" RP would still be making a few $$ as it was only 1 $6 trophy they gave out...

I'll continue to race in the CC but not sure if I'll enter the points... I wish the best to all who sponsor it & to all who race in the because it "WAS" one of the best attended classes EVER at RP we had over 100 cars in that class on a few times & over 75 almost EVERY time back a few yrs ago.....
Hope RP gets it together I love the CC and all the people who make it a fun day.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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i'll just leave this here.... http://smallblockposse.com/showthrea...********-today

Best thing to happen to the track is get new ownership!
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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No cooperation from track = no sponsors

No sponsors = no jackets

simple math.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
No cooperation from track = no sponsors

No sponsors = no jackets

simple math.

So true, when we had ECS and other sponsors we were able to do a lot of things including jackets for the top 16. Just about everything we did was self funded. I'm surprised RP is giving 4 jacket. I would have thought under these conditions just points champ and runner up.
You can't do a Lot and have some leverage with sponsor $$ and car count, right now you have neither !

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1. CC needs new representatives

2. PR needs to spell out the amounts needed to run the series, including payouts, trophies, etc

3. PR also has to spell out what sponsors get for their money, what happens to the money if a race is cancelled, ect
(without that you can't sell sponsorships)

4. We need to come up with sponsors for the amount needed

5. Everything needs to be in writing, before the race season

6. Need some new ideas to bring racers back to the track
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH

5. Everything needs to be in writing, before the race season

6. Need some new ideas to bring racers back to the track
Just asking ? again I'm "JUST ASKING" ??

Does anyone think that Corvette drivers (those who haven't drag raced) are kind of leery of entering seeing as the same top 5 -8 people win or are in the top 10 EVERY YEAR??

Look at the past results.. I know if I had never raced, and saw how some names are ALWAYS at the top.. I'd think twice about entering for points... Yes I might enter one or two races but not as a point racer..

b Then on top of that imagine a racer enters, & is lucky enough to have Ralph, or Bobby T, or Farley in the first round two races in a row ??

You get the point.. maybe there could be some kind of rule that rookies race only other rookies in the first round or anything to give them a chance of going more then 2 time shots, & eliminated in round #1

Just a thought ???
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Originally Posted by jpee
Just asking ? again I'm "JUST ASKING" ??

Does anyone think that Corvette drivers (those who haven't drag raced) are kind of leery of entering seeing as the same top 5 -8 people win or are in the top 10 EVERY YEAR??

Look at the past results.. I know if I had never raced, and saw how some names are ALWAYS at the top.. I'd think twice about entering for points... Yes I might enter one or two races but not as a point racer..

b Then on top of that imagine a racer enters, & is lucky enough to have Ralph, or Bobby T, or Farley in the first round two races in a row ??

You get the point.. maybe there could be some kind of rule that rookies race only other rookies in the first round or anything to give them a chance of going more then 2 time shots, & eliminated in round #1

Just a thought ???
Been thinking that for years

Maybe a buy back in system for those who never go rounds or won.
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH
1. CC needs new representatives

2. PR needs to spell out the amounts needed to run the series, including payouts, trophies, etc

3. PR also has to spell out what sponsors get for their money, what happens to the money if a race is cancelled, ect
(without that you can't sell sponsorships)

4. We need to come up with sponsors for the amount needed

5. Everything needs to be in writing, before the race season

6. Need some new ideas to bring racers back to the track
I know all that was inplace at one time.
Someone needs to take over where Edgar left off!
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH
Been thinking that for years

Maybe a buy back in system for those who never go rounds or won.
We tried many time to sell RP on buy backs, they had zero interest!
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It's tough to see the same guys (or gals) win over and over. But, sometimes that can motivate you to do better.

For some, it sounds as if they cancelled a jacket. For others, they cancelled a series, while sponsors were waiting on the details, looking for ways to increase car count, marketing, etc.
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Originally Posted by digivex
It's tough to see the same guys (or gals) win over and over. But, sometimes that can motivate you to do better.

For some, it sounds as if they cancelled a jacket. For others, they cancelled a series, while sponsors were waiting on the details, looking for ways to increase car count, marketing, etc.
Edgar gone, he did his time, now someone new need to take over where Edgar left off.
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Originally Posted by mackeyred96
Edgar gone, he did his time, now someone new need to take over where Edgar left off.
Agreed, although the GM EFI series had a group of sponsors, supporters, a web site (www.efiracing.com), a Facebook page and more... All very willing to work with the track to increase car count by updating rules, changing index (we spoke about slowing it from 8.90 to 9.50 to increase car count), consider opening it to other makes (not just GM EFI... Perhaps Domestic EFI), etc., etc.

No need to tell you what others did. You just need to know that others DID try to help versus the notion that no one stepped up.

In the end, there was zero communication and the series was converted to a mixed index, which the sponsors found out about through online forums... nice job & end of story

It's not our track... It's where we race (or "raced" for some of us). In the end, it's their decision and not up to one (or more) of us to run it for them.

If they offer something we like and fit into, I'm sure we'll be there (I am sure I speak for more than myself since we all love to race). And, if not, they're not the only game in town.
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Originally Posted by mackeyred96
Edgar gone, he did his time, now someone new need to take over where Edgar left off.
I thought you were moving back here???



As far as certain people always winning, new people do not know about that yet, and they still don't come. For me though that would drive me to beat them more, in a friendly competitive way.
For instance, I recall a couple of years ago when Marc had his trifecta day beating three "top dogs" in a row, the smile was ear from ear and I was happy for him. I do not recall who or what order he took them down, but I bet in a heart beat he could! Thats what it should be about.
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Originally Posted by digivex
Agreed, although the GM EFI series had a group of sponsors, supporters, a web site (www.efiracing.com), a Facebook page and more... All very willing to work with the track to increase car count by updating rules, changing index (we spoke about slowing it from 8.90 to 9.50 to increase car count), consider opening it to other makes (not just GM EFI... Perhaps Domestic EFI), etc., etc.

No need to tell you what others did. You just need to know that others DID try to help versus the notion that no one stepped up.

In the end, there was zero communication and the series was converted to a mixed index, which the sponsors found out about through online forums... nice job & end of story

It's not our track... It's where we race (or "raced" for some of us). In the end, it's their decision and not up to one (or more) of us to run it for them.

If they offer something we like and fit into, I'm sure we'll be there (I am sure I speak for more than myself since we all love to race). And, if not, they're not the only game in town.


Summed up pretty well, it sounds like John doesn't realise that people did step up, with their time and $$ to no prevail.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS

As far as certain people always winning, new people do not know about that yet, and they still don't come. For me though that would drive me to beat them more, in a friendly competitive way.
I came out and learned the hard way, I ended up going against Cousin Vinny all the time

Sad about the jackets to me that's saying something when only four people will have a memento of the years racing effort.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
I thought you were moving back here???



As far as certain people always winning, new people do not know about that yet, and they still don't come. For me though that would drive me to beat them more, in a friendly competitive way.
For instance, I recall a couple of years ago when Marc had his trifecta day beating three "top dogs" in a row, the smile was ear from ear and I was happy for him. I do not recall who or what order he took them down, but I bet in a heart beat he could! Thats what it should be about.
Wrong the first time I raced at RP there were at least 20 cars in the right lane and none in the left,I knew right away the guy up front was top dog and I was the only guy with the ***** to go up front.1st round lost but not a coward.
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