How do you Drag Race??
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Loading the coverter (bumping up to 1600) is a good idea if you have the tires to take it. On street tires, it will be too much and thus your spin. Loading it might not be right for your setup at least not that much.
You seem to be getting a fairly good 60' time but your ET and MPH seem low. I would expect to see your MPH in the 99 range.
Maybe someone with an 86 can chime in there are some very good ones here.
It is possible that weather was holding you back some.
You seem to be getting a fairly good 60' time but your ET and MPH seem low. I would expect to see your MPH in the 99 range.
Maybe someone with an 86 can chime in there are some very good ones here.
It is possible that weather was holding you back some.
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (REDGAR)
According to a lot of the locals the track conditions were pretty good. It was about 50 degrees out and we were about 450 above sea level with a slight breeze.
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1.9 60's on street tires? :eek: Damn, freaking automatics :mad Those are some great numbers ... and you're asking for advice? About all you can do is bring the rpms up and see if you get any spin. Awesome launch!
Chris
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Those are fair weather conditions. Again I need someone with a similar car to chime in but I feel that there might be a problem at the top end.
I once found that I was launching well but was not getting the ET and MPH and the cause was the that the throttle cable was not fully adjusted. I put the peddle to the floor the by the butterfly opened only 1/2 to 3/4 way. After adjusting the cable the ET and MPH came back. Not saying you have this problem just that it may not be you at all the reason for the 96 MPH
I once found that I was launching well but was not getting the ET and MPH and the cause was the that the throttle cable was not fully adjusted. I put the peddle to the floor the by the butterfly opened only 1/2 to 3/4 way. After adjusting the cable the ET and MPH came back. Not saying you have this problem just that it may not be you at all the reason for the 96 MPH
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1.9 60's on street tires? :eek: Damn, freaking automatics :mad Those are some great numbers ... and you're asking for advice? About all you can do is bring the rpms up and see if you get any spin. Awesome launch!
Chris
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (REDGAR)
Those are fair weather conditions. Again I need someone with a similar car to chime in but I feel that there might be a problem at the top end.
I once found that I was launching well but was not getting the ET and MPH and the cause was the that the throttle cable was not fully adjusted. I put the peddle to the floor the by the butterfly opened only 1/2 to 3/4 way. After adjusting the cable the ET and MPH came back. Not saying you have this problem just that it may not be you at all the reason for the 96 MPH
I once found that I was launching well but was not getting the ET and MPH and the cause was the that the throttle cable was not fully adjusted. I put the peddle to the floor the by the butterfly opened only 1/2 to 3/4 way. After adjusting the cable the ET and MPH came back. Not saying you have this problem just that it may not be you at all the reason for the 96 MPH
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Leaving at idle with my auto '86 is how I got my best times. Whenever I tried preloading I spun badly. Those 60's are good on street tires.
My best was 1.92 60', 14.1, 95mph
My best was 1.92 60', 14.1, 95mph
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (REDGAR)
Redgar I checked my TB Butterflies and sure enough there are not opening all the way, if fact they are only opening about ½ inch! :eek:
When I had a friend stand on the gas pedal I could still move the TB lever about 3/4 of an inch for it to be wide open (Butterflies horizontal).
I guess this could be one of my problems. :crazy:
When I had a friend stand on the gas pedal I could still move the TB lever about 3/4 of an inch for it to be wide open (Butterflies horizontal).
I guess this could be one of my problems. :crazy:
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
magoo, plain and simple.... you suck :p:
honestly, if you preload the convertor to 1500rpms then when the 3rd yellow comes on, let off the brake and dont get into the throttle, once you get rolling, then punch it.
i tried telling you this, but you mashed it from 1600 and went up in smoke :seeya
honestly, if you preload the convertor to 1500rpms then when the 3rd yellow comes on, let off the brake and dont get into the throttle, once you get rolling, then punch it.
i tried telling you this, but you mashed it from 1600 and went up in smoke :seeya
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Redgar I checked my TB Butterflies and sure enough there are not opening all the way, if fact they are only opening about ½ inch! :eek:
When I had a friend stand on the gas pedal I could still move the TB lever about 3/4 of an inch for it to be wide open (Butterflies horizontal).
I guess this could be one of my problems. :crazy:
When I had a friend stand on the gas pedal I could still move the TB lever about 3/4 of an inch for it to be wide open (Butterflies horizontal).
I guess this could be one of my problems. :crazy:
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Yes a great 60' but that's it........then it just runs out of breath. Dog city!! :rolleyes:
Little things that will affect your mph (trap speed).
1. temperature ... the cooler the better, make sure you run on a cool engine, ice it if you have to
2. stupid little things like making sure the filter is clean or that the car isn't carboned up
3. the throttle body thing the guy above mentioned ... on my car I had the same problem (it's a common factory restriction on LS1 Fbodies). I had to shave the throttle body stop down with a dremel tool so that my throttle blade would open all the way.
4. raising the tire pressure in the front might give you a little mph
5. when you stage, just barely trip the second light ... theoretically you get a very, very slight rolling start this way ... as opposed to staging too close to the starting (e.t.) line.
6. weight reduction
My advice though is just to try and get a better launch if you can. You only have to improve it very slightly to crack a 13.
Good luck
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
I run high 1.8 - low 1.9 60' on stock Goodyears (P255-50/ZR16). I do a short burnout to heat the tires, stage shallow (to get a running start), flash the stock convertor to 2000 RPM with the brake on, and leave on the last yellow.
When I first started racing, I would leave from idle, and just mash the loud pedal. 60' were 2.1 - 2.2. I always run in D (3rd) and let the tranny shift itself.
See my sig for my best time. Not too shabby for a "Catch Fire"
When I first started racing, I would leave from idle, and just mash the loud pedal. 60' were 2.1 - 2.2. I always run in D (3rd) and let the tranny shift itself.
See my sig for my best time. Not too shabby for a "Catch Fire"
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1.9 60's on street tires? :eek: Damn, freaking automatics :mad Those are some great numbers ... and you're asking for advice? About all you can do is bring the rpms up and see if you get any spin. Awesome launch!
Chris
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Magoo I bet you'll find that was the problem then. Grab a manual and adjust it and you should be golden.
Wow, can you all believe I successfully diagnosed one :eek:
Wow, can you all believe I successfully diagnosed one :eek:
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
Mark, when you're staged load the converter up to about 1,200-1,500 RPM. When the last yellow goes on release the brake, and gradually roll onto the throttle, once the car feels like it's moving to quick to spin the tires nail the throttle down the rest of the way. It's really tough to explain this, but it's all about "feel" and finding exactly how to do it for your car.
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (REDGAR)
Magoo I bet you'll find that was the problem then. Grab a manual and adjust it and you should be golden.
Wow, can you all believe I successfully diagnosed one :eek:
Wow, can you all believe I successfully diagnosed one :eek:
It my own damn fault really, when I bought this Vette the silly azz that owned it before me had a NOS plate just before the Throttle Body. I removed it when I changed my old intake to a Ported AS&M intake and never replaced the bracket that the Throttle cable and TV cable hook up to. I have a ton of slack in the throttle cable, thus the reason for my butterflies not opening. D'OH!!! I was only running at half throttle down the track last Sunday and never went into WOT. :rolleyes: Well at least it's an easy fix, too bad the seasons over though. :(
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Re: How do you Drag Race?? (Mr. Magoo)
The season is not over. We have a Corvette Challenge tomorrow and again on nov 9th so saddle up and come down to E-Town.
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We ran a best 60' last fall of 1.878 with stock tranny & TC as well as bald run-flats!!!
1.8's :mad 1 day I'm going to hit that (then I'll probably miss a shift :p: )
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