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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 01:32 AM
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I am getting rid of my 2020 challenger 392, they are wildly inconsistent bracket cars. I'm looking for a 2014-2018 corvette about 40-60k. UNFORTUNATELY they do not let you test drive it at the track to see if it is a consistent car haha. Does anybody have one they bracket race seriously and can tell me? I read on here a few people had older C5s that had a 'bracket tune' and were crazy consistent. This is the sort of thing I'm looking for I just dont want an older one. I'm talking within .01 .02 .03. Thanks for the help!
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I'm running a 2020 Scat Pack Shaker this season. Going for points in Sportsman and Pro at Bradenton and for fun no-box at IRR. Do you have a 1320 Challenger or a "regular" Scat? I got the Dodge consistent enough to go rounds.I was within .01 on this elimination round.

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Originally Posted by bracketvette
Hello!

I am getting rid of my 2020 challenger 392, they are wildly inconsistent bracket cars. I'm looking for a 2014-2018 corvette about 40-60k. UNFORTUNATELY they do not let you test drive it at the track to see if it is a consistent car haha. Does anybody have one they bracket race seriously and can tell me? I read on here a few people had older C5s that had a 'bracket tune' and were crazy consistent. This is the sort of thing I'm looking for I just dont want an older one. I'm talking within .01 .02 .03. Thanks for the help!
Curious to what makes you feel the Challenger is an inconsistent bracket car, or moreso what makes you feel that another stock vehicle would be any more consistent than another stock vehicle?
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Originally Posted by bracketvette
Hello!

I am getting rid of my 2020 challenger 392, they are wildly inconsistent bracket cars. I'm looking for a 2014-2018 corvette about 40-60k. UNFORTUNATELY they do not let you test drive it at the track to see if it is a consistent car haha. Does anybody have one they bracket race seriously and can tell me? I read on here a few people had older C5s that had a 'bracket tune' and were crazy consistent. This is the sort of thing I'm looking for I just dont want an older one. I'm talking within .01 .02 .03. Thanks for the help!
I'd highly recommend a C6, something between 2006 and 2013.

I owned a 2015 Z06 for 3 years and it was crazy inconsistent. I could go out and run a 11.1, followed by an 11.3 after waiting for over an hour in between rounds and then follow it up with a 10.9 after hotlapping it.

In my C6 however I have won a lot of races with it and these timeslips from back in October should give you an idea of just how consistent it can be when built and tuned properly.


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Good luck in your search for a replacement bracket car!

IMHO, the biggest issue with late model cars is the transmission tuning. It’s affecting your pass more than any other system in the car.

The C5/C6 cars are a lot better then the newer stuff. Like SubFloor above, getting a C6 (or C5 ) to be consistent is a lot easier. And, as a bonus, they’re cheaper to buy and modify.

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Thanks for the reply’s everyone!

I race at Bandimere out here in Denver and there’s a challenger and Mopar club. We usually get between 8-25 depending on the event. The challengers aren’t wildly inconsistent maybe even a little better than a normal newer car. But that’s not necessarily what I’m looking for. I’m always right on the edge of qualifying for the division 5 finals and the car just isn’t quite on par with the purpose built drag cars or even some late model street cars, which is understandable. Think most of us at the track agree the usual run over run change with all variables constant is between .03-.06 which isn’t that bad. I know I may be asking a lot but I want a normal daily drivable street car that is more .01 .02 and .03 and I’m not willing to get an electric car lol. I started surfing forums and I found a lot of responses about tuning ls cars can get them very very consistent as some of the responses confirmed. This really sparked my interest. I guess that’s what my goal was. A car for the street that isn’t a decent bracket car but a pretty good one. I got addicted to bracket racing and I guess I’m too competitive now . It’s just frustrating watching my car all variables constant run .08 off from what it should. It has its days where it’s killer though. Reading through some posts got me going down this rabbit hole of seeing if I can tune out all the BS and getting a consistent vette.



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Originally Posted by bracketvette
Thanks for the reply’s everyone!

I race at Bandimere out here in Denver and there’s a challenger and Mopar club. We usually get between 8-25 depending on the event. The challengers aren’t wildly inconsistent maybe even a little better than a normal newer car. But that’s not necessarily what I’m looking for. I’m always right on the edge of qualifying for the division 5 finals and the car just isn’t quite on par with the purpose built drag cars or even some late model street cars, which is understandable. Think most of us at the track agree the usual run over run change with all variables constant is between .03-.06 which isn’t that bad. I know I may be asking a lot but I want a normal daily drivable street car that is more .01 .02 and .03 and I’m not willing to get an electric car lol. I started surfing forums and I found a lot of responses about tuning ls cars can get them very very consistent as some of the responses confirmed. This really sparked my interest. I guess that’s what my goal was. A car for the street that isn’t a decent bracket car but a pretty good one. I got addicted to bracket racing and I guess I’m too competitive now . It’s just frustrating watching my car all variables constant run .08 off from what it should. It has its days where it’s killer though. Reading through some posts got me going down this rabbit hole of seeing if I can tune out all the BS and getting a consistent vette.
I'm going to be a bit harsh. The driver has to step up and drive the wheels off the car. The crew chief needs to get a handle of why the car is changing. Times when the crew chief throws a soft number and tells the driver we may be holding .08 so drive the stripe. I have found that the air intake temp and under hood temps have a big factor on how my Challenger runs. When I see 209 as a under hood temp before the burnout box I know the car will drop 04 and will be soft on the tree. Racing a "street" car is a disadvantage against a "real" bracket car. Some advantages is that its slower and is easier to scrub ET. I have a slower car so I'm almost always first so I work hard on my lights not to go red. As the slow car I get a lot of experience on how a fast car comes up to me and how it looks. The fast car usually doesn't see a slow car in the class. Work with what you have and lean to the strengths, It's easy to blame the loss on the car, track, weather ect. The one who can adjust to the variables usually wins the round. Good luck in the 2020 season.

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Kazman makes a lot of great points...I raced a 93 vette for many years...it was basically stock...that car presented many problems in bracket racing but, by far, the largest was the computer...pump gas is another big issue for a bracket racer...the most inconsistent fuel of all is pump gas compared to race gas or methanol...tuning out certain computer stuff would be a big help...

As to pump gas, I still run it but I made a decision years ago to run it in a dedicated drag race car....first an 81 Camaro and now a 79 Monte Carlo...both were/are big blocks, old school carbed motors but still on 93 pump gas...I wanted to be more competitive and I am...good luck whichever way you go...
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The LS1 is super consistent. I would get .01 - .02 ET consistency in Seattle while powershifting. Both with a C5 Hardtop and a Camaro Z28 SS.
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This post is a few months old but my time slips from the past weekend. 2020 Challenger Scat A8, Still a work in progress but getting better. My car number is 50TH,

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