Drag Racing Results, Trap Speed, Reaction Time, Driving Technique, Tips for Running the Corvette in the ¼ & 1/8 mile, Events

Paging Mackey (IRS Ruling)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:11 PM
  #1  
ralph's Avatar
ralph
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 6,172
Likes: 11
From: somers, ny
Default Paging Mackey (IRS Ruling)

Hi Mack.....happy new year.

Didn't you clarify the current IRS rule with NHRA HQ and the C4 is considered to have upper and lower control arms....meaning it is legal into the tens with 1/2 shaft loops????????
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:36 PM
  #2  
mackeyred96's Avatar
mackeyred96
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 32,782
Likes: 11
From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by ralph
Hi Mack.....happy new year.

Didn't you clarify the current IRS rule with NHRA HQ and the C4 is considered to have upper and lower control arms....meaning it is legal into the tens with 1/2 shaft loops????????
Ralph, last I talked to NHRA TECH HQ the C4 IRS was good to 10.00 but at 10.99 you do need 1/2 shaft loops.
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 06:13 PM
  #3  
ralph's Avatar
ralph
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 6,172
Likes: 11
From: somers, ny
Default

thanks Mack........how long ago was that?
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 06:46 PM
  #4  
mackeyred96's Avatar
mackeyred96
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 32,782
Likes: 11
From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by ralph
thanks Mack........how long ago was that?
Last year this time.
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 06:59 PM
  #5  
CFI-EFI's Avatar
CFI-EFI
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 17,298
Likes: 33
From: The Top of Utah
Default

Originally Posted by mackeyred96
Ralph, last I talked to NHRA TECH HQ the C4 IRS was good to 10.00 but at 10.99 you do need 1/2 shaft loops.
According to the NHRA 2005 Rulebook, there is no limit as to how fast you can go with the loops. By the way, the rule hasn't changed, on this, since it's (the rule) inception. I merely mentioned the 2005 book to show it's current.

RACE ON!!!
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:54 PM
  #6  
Major Spray's Avatar
Major Spray
Drifting
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,405
Likes: 0
From: Fort Salonga NY
Default

Yes any IRS setup is legal to 10.00 as long as you have upper and lower control arms. Tom's Differental is now selling a kit that adds links to make the C2 and C3 setups legal as well
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:23 PM
  #7  
CFI-EFI's Avatar
CFI-EFI
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 17,298
Likes: 33
From: The Top of Utah
Default

Originally Posted by Major Spray
Yes any IRS setup is legal to 10.00 as long as you have upper and lower control arms.
Where does the 10.00 keep coming from? To quote the, NHRA 2005 Rulebook:

"Cars with independent rear suspension using upper and lower (both) control arms may retain swing axle assembly regardless of weight and e.t."

This is the same rule since the IRS rules came into being.

RACE ON!!!
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:16 PM
  #8  
ralph's Avatar
ralph
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 6,172
Likes: 11
From: somers, ny
Default

thanks all for the quick replies. I was having a debate on another forum and wanted to make sure i had my facts straight.

Jim, i'm pretty sure the rule DID change in the last 4-5 years. There was an absolute 11.00 limit on the IRS. Then they added the exception for the upper/lower control arms. i THOUGHT there was still a 10.00 limit, but i could be wrong. Jesse posted a picture of the Toms setup and the title said something about legal to 7.50. Although Mackey mentioned it here, so maybe i'm not completely senile.....or maybe we both are
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:04 PM
  #9  
REDGAR's Avatar
REDGAR
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 32,545
Likes: 2
From: Lithia FL
Cruise-In II & IV Veteran
CI VI Drag Champ!
Default

Originally Posted by Major Spray
Yes any IRS setup is legal to 10.00 as long as you have upper and lower control arms. Tom's Differental is now selling a kit that adds links to make the C2 and C3 setups legal as well
I just read about that (I think) in Hot Rod
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:02 AM
  #10  
CFI-EFI's Avatar
CFI-EFI
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 17,298
Likes: 33
From: The Top of Utah
Default

Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Where does the 10.00 keep coming from? To quote the, NHRA 2005 Rulebook:

"Cars with independent rear suspension using upper and lower (both) control arms may retain swing axle assembly regardless of weight and e.t."

This is the same rule since the IRS rules came into being.

RACE ON!!!
I'm not making this up. It isn't something I THOUGHT I read, or something I think someone MIGHT have said, or any other dubious source. It is straight from the horse's mouth.

RACE ON!!!
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:11 AM
  #11  
mackeyred96's Avatar
mackeyred96
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 32,782
Likes: 11
From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Default

OK, IT'S NOT 10.00.

I must have made it up, I'm sorry.

Ralph, there is no limit on IRS,
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:23 AM
  #12  
Major Spray's Avatar
Major Spray
Drifting
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,405
Likes: 0
From: Fort Salonga NY
Default

You are correct I don't see any limit on ET mentioned I am sure you would be good till 7.50 but the chassis requirments may be a problem when you get below that not that we have to worry about going faster then 7.50 my error.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:41 PM
  #13  
ralph's Avatar
ralph
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 6,172
Likes: 11
From: somers, ny
Default

It's all Mackey's fault

Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:01 PM
  #14  
jpee's Avatar
jpee
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 13,298
Likes: 14
From: Somers NY
Default

Originally Posted by ralph
It's all Mackey's fault

Hmmmmm
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:22 PM
  #15  
mackeyred96's Avatar
mackeyred96
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 32,782
Likes: 11
From: Former NCM Drag Racing coordinator, National director Corvette Challenge Spring Hill, Tennessee: Whiting, New Jersey
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by Red96Coupe
Hmmmmm
JP, I'm having BRAIN FADE.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Paging Mackey (IRS Ruling)





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:59 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE