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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
The con rod isn't a lever. All it does is push. That is, transfer the pressure exerted on the piston to the crankshaft. That transfer is most efficient when the rod and crank form a 90* angle. Among other things, the length of the rod, can affect the crank position where this occurs, SLIGHTLY.

The LEVER is the crank arm. If you want more leverage twisting the crank, increase the length of the crank arm. Generally, we call that "stroking" the engine. Like making a 383 out of a 350.

I don't understand the last part, of your last sentence, at all. What are you referring to as being "geared"? What is being "matched"?

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The way I'm thinking about this... Once you are beyond 90 degrees you have a piston pushing on a rod. The rod is at an angle to the crank... the longer the rod, along with the angle the more distance from the rod to crank center to center. Longer lever?!?!

Geared/matched... was searching for words...

I know the crank is the "Lever" I'm just wondering if a longer rod has more "Leverage on" the crank.

I'm not really sure what I'm saying... probably as clear as mud
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZD75blue
The way I'm thinking about this... Once you are beyond 90 degrees you have a piston pushing on a rod. The rod is at an angle to the crank... the longer the rod, along with the angle the more distance from the rod to crank center to center. Longer lever?!?!

I know the crank is the "Lever" I'm just wondering if a longer rod has more "Leverage on" the crank.
Since the rod is not a lever, it does not exert leverage. Making it longer, can't make it a "longer lever", because it never WAS a lever. Making it longer doesn't convert it's function in to being a lever. In this context, changing the rod length will only alter, very slightly, the position of the crank where the 90* "sweet spot" occurs.

Consider the con rod as a push rod. That is all it is.

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Still cant get the picture out of my mind... we're still making a triangle... anyone have a way to host pictures? I can sketch it out...
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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I can't host a picture. If you go to the "HELP" forum, you can read how to post one, as for a sig picture. Then just paste it here instead of to your signature.

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