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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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This subject is probably as controversial as what cam to use in our 327s. For your everday or rather weekend midyear hot rod Corvette,
would you select the KB 157 Hypereutectic pistons or the TRW 2166 forged pistons?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Personally I'd use the forged so I would never have to worry about them. But hypereutectics are Ok as long as you gap rings looser and respect their limitations. RPM and detonation.

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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I'm running hyper's in mine, largely because I'm not a dedicated racer, I'm not going to run nitrous and I don't plan on trying to spin them over 6000 rpm on a regular basis. For me, I wanted something better then the stock cast, but was less expensive then the full forged. Good for a run down the strip every once in a while, and maybe an autocross or two, but nothing too extreme.
What's the rest of your rotating assembly?

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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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I've got KB lightweight hypers in my current short block at 11.3-1 CR. It makes maximum HP at 6200 and spinning it there or beyond has never been a problem in going on 25K miles. I've done some autocrossing and enjoy it in other appropriate places now and then. I talked to my machinist when I built the current block a couple of years ago. He does a lot of work for and builds engines for many drag and oval racers in the area. He was very straightforward and told me when he first started using them, he had some problems because he did not address the special gaps required for them. After conferring w/ KB, he realized what he did wrong and has used them w/ great success since. He says they're very popular w/ bracket racers and economy class oval racers around here.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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I was reading the specs on the new Z06 Vette the other day, the one with the 7000rpm 500hp motor and it uses cast pistons, probably hypereutectics.
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Hyper vote
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Personally I'd use the forged so I would never have to worry about them. But hypereutectics are Ok as long as you gap rings looser and respect their limitations. RPM and detonation.

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The new Z06 uses Hyper. If you want to use any kind of forced induction or No2 use forged. Forged can be noisy (piston slap) at start-up. K-B's are not real popular with some engine builders, look at Speed Pro they have friction coated skirts. I saw recomendations in one of the car mags about Max. HP for Hypers, probobly should check with the manufacturer.
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Hypers run in my engine that hits over 7000. We also run our gaps tighter than recommended. We consulted our engine shop that has set up and raced a lot of these and they report having very few problems. Since all they build is serious race engines we took there advice and have not had any problems. Most of the ring expansion issues the kill hypers come from poor tunes that lead to excess heat.
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My LS7 already has hypers in it? Hmmm...kewl!
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Get the forged, then you don't have to worry whether you did right or not. I never hurts to go for the overkill.
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i went with a lightweight forged (speed pro), which are lighter than the factory hypereutectics were that came in the '90.
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