1st time honer questions
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1st time honer questions
I'm gonna hone my cylinder walls next weekend. I can rent the Autozone 3-stone expandable type hone, is this OK?
Do you use a lube or fluid on the stones?
Do you just cross hatch until all slick spots are removed?
Thanks for the help!
Do you use a lube or fluid on the stones?
Do you just cross hatch until all slick spots are removed?
Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by LD85
I'm gonna hone my cylinder walls next weekend. I can rent the Autozone 3-stone expandable type hone, is this OK?
Do you use a lube or fluid on the stones?
Do you just cross hatch until all slick spots are removed?
Thanks for the help!
Do you use a lube or fluid on the stones?
Do you just cross hatch until all slick spots are removed?
Thanks for the help!
I hope you have the engine out of the car? If not you are asking for trouble when it comes time to clean the block for assembly. When using a ball type hone I use motor oil to lubricate. Different oil weight can make the hone remove more or less metal when spinning the hone in the cylinders. Also, the speed at which you move the hone up and down the cylinders can and will determine what type of a cross hatch pattern you will end up with.
If you are going to do this yourself check with friends and see if anyone has an old engine laying around...lawn mower, junk motor...anything that you don't care if you mess up to use for practice.
Good luck,
Jeff
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The desired finish of the cylinder walls is dependent on the type of ring surface being used; cast iron, chrome, plasma, moly, etc. The stone, stone pressure, lubricant, hone motor speed, all go into achieving the ideal cylinder wall finish for your rings and usage.
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Originally Posted by LD85
Cool, I' gonna give it a whirl!
But first, I will try a few old 4" bore lawn mower cylinders!
But first, I will try a few old 4" bore lawn mower cylinders!
The size of the bore is unimportant for practice. Getting used to how the hone works the metal is.
Good luck,
Jeff
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LARRY Fuel oil is excellent for a lube. Remember the object is to bust the glaze you want the hone to get some bite motor oil would make it more difficult to remove the metal and be costly.
Machine shops have a tank on the hone machine and it sprays a constant stream of fuel oil or a light cutting oil on the stone.
If you are doing it in the car then you cn do it but if the engine is out take it to a shop that has a Suden honing machine and get a far better job than you can do with the hand hone.
Machine shops have a tank on the hone machine and it sprays a constant stream of fuel oil or a light cutting oil on the stone.
If you are doing it in the car then you cn do it but if the engine is out take it to a shop that has a Suden honing machine and get a far better job than you can do with the hand hone.
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The engine will be out this weekend and I will give it a try. I have buddy that has done this and I will hook up with him.
The engine will be out this weekend and I will give it a try. I have buddy that has done this and I will hook up with him.
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I'd run that block by a trusted machine shop, for the minimum of an expert opinion. Depending on the rings being used, some low mileage engines, such as yours, are best left untouched.
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Well I did my first home made hone 3 years ago. The rings sealed w/o a problem and the engine hasn't been taking oil since. I used the 3 stones hooked to a power drill. I also used engine oil for lubricant. Maybe I got lucky. 
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Originally Posted by Lohkay
Well I did my first home made hone 3 years ago. The rings sealed w/o a problem and the engine hasn't been taking oil since. I used the 3 stones hooked to a power drill. I also used engine oil for lubricant. Maybe I got lucky.
So I took it down to the local engine shop and had them bore it .010 over to 4.165 and hone and deck it to .005 in the hole,
Would have been Ok except for the scratch