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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Default Assembly lube under head bolt washers?

I remember reading that somewhere to keep the head bolt washer from digging into the aluminum head when you're torquing them?


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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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You should always put assembly lube under the washers and between the washer and nut, as well as the stud/bolt threads, for best results. It will result in a more accurate torque reading.
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Monty took the words right out of my mouth. You put assembly lube under the washers for the same reason that you chase all of your bolt holes and make sure all of the threads on the bolts are clean. When you use a torque wrench it measures the amount of resistance. So by putting assembly lube under the head bolt washers it will, as Monty already pointed out, give you a more accurate torque reading.
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Default Re: Assembly lube under head bolt washers? (1970 Stingray)

i always used 30W engine oil
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Assembly lube under head bolt washers? (bence13_33)

You put assembly lube under the washers for the same reason that you chase all of your bolt holes and make sure all of the threads on the bolts are clean. When you use a torque wrench it measures the amount of resistance. So by putting assembly lube under the head bolt washers it will, as Monty already pointed out, give you a more accurate torque reading.
I prefer NOT to put a tap in any threaded holes in the block unless absolutely necessary. I want the threaded hole a tight as was new. The more you run a metal cutting device in threads, the more the likihood of getting less than a true/quality thread fit. Wire brush, air pressure, solvent, anything but a chaser/tap. Actually, a bolt/stud with good threads makes a good threaded hole cleaner. I just cut clearance slots similar to those on a tap/chaser, and run that in the hole.

When you use a torque wrench it measures the amount of resistance.

Unfortunately, yes. However, what determines the clamping ability of a bolt/stud is tensile strength/stretch. Torque is a poor method of measuring stretch of the fastener. Any deviation from the recommended lube procedure will alter the fastener stretch with a given torque value. I'd use the service manual or stud mfr. recommendations. No need or merit in getting to exotic.






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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Assembly lube under head bolt washers? (arnold)

Unfortunately, yes. However, what determines the clamping ability of a bolt/stud is tensile strength/stretch. Torque is a poor method of measuring stretch of the fastener. Any deviation from the recommended lube procedure will alter the fastener stretch with a given torque value. I'd use the service manual or stud mfr. recommendations. No need or merit in getting to exotic.
Very true. Another key aspect of this to recognize is not only deviation from the recommended lube procedure, but also deviation from the recommended lubricant can significantly affect proper tightening. For example, ARP recommends using Moly-based lube when tightening the bolts/studs. If you can't use a stretch gauge and you use motor oil instead of the Moly-based lube on the ARP fasteners, you will undertorque the bolts/studs because of the same reasons you have to use lube in the first place.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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Wire brush, air pressure, solvent, anything but a chaser/tap.
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Here's what I use:







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Here's what I use:
Looks slicker than snot. And a good source?
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I got them from GoodWay, they specialize in cleaning systems for tubes (usually they are for cleaning heat exchangers, pipes for overs and so on..)

I use the stainless ones:

http://www.goodway.com/datacart/acce...roductTypeID=3



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