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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Default Mechanical fuel pump for a 540

I'm getting to the point were I'll need a fuel pump, so it's decision time. Do you guys think I can stick with the stock 3/8 fuel line and a mechanical pump? I've been looking at the Holley stuff, and they have a 110 GPH pump that doesn't require a regulator, and a 130 that does require a regulator. Carter has a 172 GPH. I'm trying to keep the tripower motor as stock looking as possible, so avoiding the regulator would be a good thing if possible. I have 3/8 tubing and AN fittings for all the tripower pump to carb plumbing.

The engine is a 540 with AFR heads, 252/260 @050 duration flat solid cam (110LSA), and 68 tripower intake.

Anyway, the shortblock is finally finished, and it only took me two years! :lol:

I decided to paint everything Chevy orange:







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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Mechanical fuel pump for a 540 (Flareside)

Flare, do you have a return line to the fuel tank on that car? I'm no expert on this but I thought the return line was a plus when using an electric pump. If you do have it then the regulator would be a source for the hook-up to go back to the return line. Just a thought.

Good luck!!

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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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That is going to be a real fun motor, even with the tri-power it still should be north of 650 hp.

I think Hotrod was feeding 700 hp with a 3/8 line. I am feeding around 620 with 3/8 but am using a 140 Holley electric pump. I think if you need to stay with the mechanical I would go with the 172 Carter, not a good thing to go lean, gets exspensive
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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That is going to be a real fun motor, even with the tri-power it still should be north of 650 hp.

I think Hotrod was feeding 700 hp with a 3/8 line. I am feeding around 620 with 3/8 but am using a 140 Holley electric pump. I think if you need to stay with the mechanical I would go with the 172 Carter, not a good thing to go lean, gets exspensive
650 would make me happy! ;)

I'd really like to avoid the complication of an electric pump if possible, mainly to avoid all the electrical stuff (relay, oil pressure cutoff, etc.). I'm already installing an MSD distributor, digital 6 ignition, remote timing control, and Spal fans. Too many wired gizmos for me already!

I actually have the Carter 172 pump here already, but hooking it up cleanly is a problem. The inlet and outlets are 5/8-18, so no standard AN stuff that I can find fits it. Carter supplies special male 10AN fittings with the pump, but they won't help me much, and 10AN-6AN adapters on each port won't make for a very clean installation. I'm really hoping that the Holley 130 with an external regulator will get the job done.

Mark, I do have a return line, but I've also run this car with a tripower intake and the return capped off. It works fine either way. I plan to cap it and forget it.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Mechanical fuel pump for a 540 (Flareside)

I used a basic Holley mechanical with no regulator and 3/8" lines up until just recently. Never had any issues with but but figured I was running on the edge. The 427 ran deep 11's with it. Can't tell you about the 540...axle breakage issues were a little more frequent with it, so I never got a pass in on it. But on the street it made many 130+ mph runs with no problems.

C'mon...you're using A/N fittings anyway...you can slip in a regulator somewhere. It can be hidden back up under the fender somewhere.

If you decide to go electric....I used the big Aeromotive pump with a return line and it's a lot quieter than most of the Holley's.


BTW...that looks awful familiar to mine! You're going to have fun!

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Thanks Jim. It sounds like I can get by with a regular mechanical setup. I'm going to order the Holley 130 mechanical pump and an Aeromotive external regulator this week. Simple and affordable. I can always upgrade to the electric pump later if the mechanical falls short, and I'll need the regulator with either pump.

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I have run the 1/2" stainless in the past.........if you can I would do it, it also makes for cooler fuel to the Mech. pump.
The right mechanical pump will be :thumbs:
You may want to consider a NASCAR Phenolic mech. fuel pump to block heat isolator kit. It has spacers that insulate the 2 bolts and FP body from the block. Pack the FP body with grease/zerk fitting to lube the lever....sweet.
You used to be able to buy it from http://66.155.51.113/default.aspx
It works really good on my 68' Camaro SBC.
I you want when I get home tonight and can post specfic info on this set up!
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Default Re: Mechanical fuel pump for a 540 (Flareside)

Do you guys think I can stick with the stock 3/8 fuel line and a mechanical pump?

[Modified by Flareside, 8:42 AM 10/18/2003]
I do not believe 3/8 line is adequate. You need to go to 1/2" line. If you run a mechanical pump, you need to go with something like CV Products' race pump with -8 fittings built in. We have a Dart 540 making about 600 rwhp with a holley blue race pump with regulator and -8 fittings, tank to regulator, then twin -6 lines to our carb. We have pictures of it on our website. A lean motor is a dead motor...no 2nd chances. BTW, the noise from the fuel pump hasn't been noticable.
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