Got a problem that I'd like to bounce off you guys....

That NOS radiator that I paid huge bucks for last fall seems to have a very small leak (dripping). I really don't want to have to take the thing out; what do you guys think I should do? I was thinking of the stuff you put in and let it run hot for a while.....

Nothin is easy.

Allen

 

Just remember this........in three months, Saturday night, wife in car, cold Bud Lite on the console, cruising to the local 'joint' for a cruise. Pull in the drive...and everyone's faces turn to look at the most beautiful Corvette they have ever seen with water pouring out of the front end. :eek: Night over. Flashback to the CF FCR board.... :mad Sonna of a @%$#&! I should have listened to the guys....

Second scenario...spend the two hours now, PIA, pull it, properly fix it, and replace it. Same night, same scene, pull into the 'joint' and have a wonderful evening, knowing without a doubt that you're gonna get home w/o a glitch. :yesnod:

Fix it right Allen, esp on a car like that. The powder stuff (KB I think) works well temporarily, but, boy is it a ticking time bomb. My .02. Good luck.

 

Topless is dead on. That stuff is something from the fifties made for poor people who couldn't afford radiator repairs. You wouldn't use re-refined motor oil in your Corvette would you? (Although technically speaking, the petroleum portion should be just as good as the first run.) That stuff never worked for me when I was a destitute high school kid. :D

Invest the time...do it right. After all, you have been busting your buns for how many months now?

 

Somehow, this is the response I expected.......AHHHHH!!!!!!

Thanks


[Modified by allenz, 10:03 AM 5/17/2002]

 

use BARRS LEAK it is used from the factory in cars and it will not hurt your rad or heater core if used as directed. :chevy

 

Clem, the Bars Leak worked. Thanks.

However, Dennis just happened to have another correct radiator which was sent out for pressure testing today. When it comes back, we will swap the radiators and get the leaky one repaired.

Allen

 

Ronnie Winterhoff uses Barrs as SOP in all aluminum race head, hate to tell ya Chuck but your dating of this product is premature.
jer :jester

 

Hmmmm...Perhaps. :D

Ever since I've had enough money to get radiators fixed, I've never had any more radiator leaks. Maybe it's because radiators have gotten better, or because I could afford new cars and took care of the radiators, or else it's because I quit driving vehicles that said F@RD on them. In my maturity, I will remain committed to fixing it right...baling wire, chewing gum, and Barr's Leak will have no place on my vehicles.

Now, if I am ever in the position of running a squirming aluminum headed engine for just a few hours in race, Barrs Leak may be just the insurance I need to make sure it holds water until the race is over. :D :D

 

"In my maturity, I will remain committed to fixing it right..."

hey, how do all you CF vets do the quote thing?
anyway
if you are unfortunate enough to be stuck in 100 degree heat, (TexAss) with a water leak, even a small hose leak, you'll pay dearly for a can of Barrs
don't get me wrong I haven't "patched" a cooling system in years either BUT...there may be a time you'd wish you had a can
ker

 

it worked for him and that is all that counts ,correct ? i even put barrs leak pellets into the rads of my dirt bikes,atvs and snowmobiles just to be on the safe side before i even take them out on the trail. rather be safe than sorry. :D the stuff is ground up ginger root i have been told so you could even make a cup of hot ginger tea if you are thirsty. :lol:


[Modified by clem zahrobsky, 10:21 PM 5/20/2002]

 

Aluma Seal, dry powder in the 3" x 1" tube.
It really works.
Trust me on this one.
They even claim its good lubricant for
your water pump.
You really should try it.
It works.
Seldom push products. But this stuff is amazing.
Have used it on several cars. Same results every time.

 

Jer, it's real hard to not "get you wrong". Your usual response to people that disagree with you is to respond with ever more vehement arguments (check the powder coating thread). When that doesn't convince the other party, you will resort to insults and ridicule. It's no surprise that this tactic makes your debater even less likely to listen to your arguments.

It doesn't matter if I conform to your opinion or not...I am entitled to my own opinion. It is futile for you to continue to harange people that you are right and they are wrong, because...IT FREAKING DOESN'T MATTER who's right and who's wrong. There are a lot of right ways to do things.

I haven't used Barrs Leak in forty-two years, but to show that I remain open minded, I will keep your suggestion in mind. One never knows; I may actually live long enough to realize that ole Jer was right all along. I can see me now...a ninety something geezer standing beside my steaming Corvette on the side of the road thinking..."Damn, if I had only added a bottle of Barrs Leak to every coolant change like Jerry told me to."

 

Chuck
and I THOUGHT I was making an honest attempt to be nice to you, evidently I should go back to the old Sangerdicken attitude, it was more rewarding.
I could absolutely give a damned if you use anything I recommend or not but you will notice that I was far from the only respondent that suggested temporary measures to TEMPORARILY fix a problem until a permanent resolution could be found. What, you're pissed because the poster tried it, found it worked despite your guiding light.
I am not sure what caused this overreaction on your part (maybe you are a sensitive TexAss resident), but it is stereotypical of your type.
I offered the PC example, using the SWC because it was the most dramatic case I had ever seen of an owner "doing it right" only to have to spend the $$$ to repeat the work again...remember Chuck, I do this work for a living, if an owner wants to pay twice for the same work I don't mind, I just warn them that it is a probability.
You say "it doesn't matter to you", I kinda like Topless68 and it DOES matter to me, I would like to see him get the most for his money, therein lies a primary difference between you and I, (obviously one of many I am proud to say), I really do care what he does...
I take exception to your overwritten, pompous responses constantly yet say little in rebuttal, take some courses from Harry Truman, a lot to be said for "plain speaking" them folks can't take you wrong, kinda like if you don't appreciate my style screw off Chuckie
P/S/ Mac, I really did make the effort with this buttwipe


[Modified by 3X2-427, 7:12 AM 5/21/2002]

 

That's it, sh#head. I have had it with you...finally, completely, irrevocably. I will now send the post that I started to send in the first place, so you can get "rewarded" in the way that you prefer.

Every time I start to think that you might have some redeeming qualities as a human being, you remind me that you are a small, angry individual that isn't happy unless he is insulting someone un-necessarily and stirring up controversy over nothing.

You have done it here with me, Patrick and others that disagreed with you. You have gone over to C1/C2 and gotten into a screaming fracas with some not-so-soft-spoken perfect stranger. You did it before over on the NCRS Forums. With you, there is no such thing as friends agreeing to disagree; it's "you will agree", and you will say 'UNCLE' loudly, or we will be mortal enemies forever.

In my opinion, you were at the core of the discord that tore your beloved Vetteheads apart; you insulted the friend of another friend virtually to his face. It will be denied, but in my opinion it lead to wounds that never healed. Your acerbic alligator mouth overloaded your bird azz. I know what happened; I read the posts before Vetteheads became a 'closed society'.

I don't know whatever became of Vetteheads, but it seems that most of them are frequenting this site now. Not that it matters; some of those guys are excellent sources. Well, Jer, if the Vetthead clubhouse still exists...you can convene a meeting over there now, and tell them to come see how badly I have abused you. Give them this post address...it will make it more convenient for them.

It's not just your style I don't like...it's your personality from which it springs. After knowing you for a couple of years, I am surprised that you have any friends. To interact with you is to eventually get into some kind of disagreement in which you are "always right" or else.

I know why you are the way you are, but it cuts no ice with me. People wonder about the purpose of life...well, in my opinion, life is to teach each of us about humility. From your behavior, I can only conclude that you haven't learned a damn thing.

As for me, I have enough other things to do that I don't need to be constantly debating you on every technical question on this board to which you have a different answer. Why don't you and 'others' answer the questions? I have some better things to do.

 

Holy Mackerel, Chuck, chill out, willya? Can't imagine what set you off, but you need different meds! :D

Trivia - Every car built for the last 30 years has had two Bar's Leaks pellets dropped in the radiator at the assembly plant coolant fill operation - all the OEM's add them at initial fill to ensure there are no "pinhole"-size leaks at fittings or clamped hose joints. The stuff works, and can be an effective temporary repair for a more significant leak until the offending component can be repaired or replaced.

 

Mercedes Benz is one of them John.

George

 

"I have had it with you...finally, completely, irrevocably"

I take it that's a promise?

"screaming fracas "

How do you scream in text, just curious?

"With you, there is no such thing as friends agreeing to disagree; it's "you will agree", and you will say 'UNCLE' loudly, or we will be mortal enemies forever."

Now there is truth in this one statement, as it pretty much sums up how I feel towards you. The Sangerdicken double standard is in full tilt here, it is, of course, alright for YOU to argue your position repetitously but let anyone else adopt a firm stand and you run to cry about it.

"In my opinion, you were at the core of the discord that tore your beloved Vetteheads apart;"

Strange, Dale is still a Vettehead, Ken is still a Vettehead, Don O is still a Vettehead, John Z is still a Vettehead, Clem is still a Vettehead, Ron D is still a Vettehead, Pasta is still a Vettehead, Mike is still a Vettehead, Roy is still a Vettehead, Noland is still a Vettehead, Geezer is still a Vettehead, Bone is still a Vettehead, Bill B is still a Vettehead,Loren is still a Vettehead,Kevin is still a Vettehead, Rick is still a Vettehead, and about 93 others so I'm not sure how you get "torn apart" but, Hell just make this stuff up as you go as normal.

"you insulted the friend of another friend virtually to his face"

This is another neat trick that only you must know how to do on the net, so, until you set up a twelve step program I'll have to deny it.

"I read the posts before Vetteheads became a 'closed society'."

couldn't handle the $20 huh?, I'd have loaned it to ya but I doubt if you would now be "considered VH material", thankfully

"I don't know whatever became of Vetteheads, but it seems that most of them are frequenting this site now."

Better tune up that crystal ball Dick, it ain't working so good, and Please, don't insult the CF group, you know damned well Vetteheads is alive and very well

"It's not just your style I don't like...it's your personality from which it springs. After knowing you for a couple of years"

You been reading psychology for Dummies again?
You don't know me, never met me and know only what I want you to know, if I gave a rats azz about what YOU thought of me I'd be in trouble, now go say a hundred Hail Marys and sit in the corner for the Sh:Dthead comment

"As for me, I have enough other things to do that I don't need to be constantly debating you on every technical question on this board to which you have a different answer. Why don't you and 'others' answer the questions? I have some better things to do."


Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

For the other contributors:
I haven't a clue what got this going. I offer short opinions from my experience, It is impossible to answer every issue with one response and, yes I will debate an issue should I have experience that differs with those of others
I have purchased parts for CF members, NCRS members and Vetteheads, at my jobber price without hesitation and happily do so.
I offer assistance to area Corvette hobbyists on a daily basis, I thought this is what it was all about.
If Sangerhausen has an axe to grind he'd better sharpen his tools,


[Modified by 3X2-427, 6:38 PM 5/21/2002]

 

VETTEHEAD and PROUD!

Pasta

 

I can't leave you guys alone for a minute! :nonod:

 

It's all Allen's fault. He opened up the beer before we had all settled on an answer. :jester

EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with that. :D


[Modified by 67HEAVEN, 11:42 PM 5/21/2002]