brown distributor cap ??
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brown distributor cap ??
I asked the "experts" at the NCRS site and got a confusing answer, so I will ask here and hopefully someone can explain it to me. I have a NOS brown cap with the markings Delco - Remy patent 571594 on the top and Delco Remy made in Canada in the inside, at the top. It does NOT have the word "pending" or the letter "R" on it. I also have the black/white/orange box with the number 1942654 and 1#D-309 printed on it. I would like to know the original use for this thing and if you care to guess as to it`s value PLEASE DO. THANKS IN ADVANCE ...redvetracr
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
i have no idea what it is worth but i remember that all delco caps that had copper contacts were brown not black like the caps with aluminum contacts. we always used the brown caps on race car distributors when using packard 440 solid stainless steel ignition wire. they were sold over the counter. :chevy
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
The answer you got:
"Current version of GM L-88 distributor cap, replacement for, but not an accurate replication of the correct cap for a '67-69 L-88 engined Corvette, as described in the Judging Guides for the various years of availability. "
Is pretty clear to me. If you don't have the judging guides, that's not their problem.
The cap you bought (as I understand it) is a modern day replacement. It's worth what a GM dealer retails it for, if they're still available. Go ask them.
"Current version of GM L-88 distributor cap, replacement for, but not an accurate replication of the correct cap for a '67-69 L-88 engined Corvette, as described in the Judging Guides for the various years of availability. "
Is pretty clear to me. If you don't have the judging guides, that's not their problem.
The cap you bought (as I understand it) is a modern day replacement. It's worth what a GM dealer retails it for, if they're still available. Go ask them.
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Mike Ward)
Mike Ward,
The confusion (on my part) comes when Bill Culpper says "current version" BUT Joe Lucia (NCRS parts EXPERT) tells me it was discontinued in the 70`s replaced with the "R" cap. He also says service replacement for the 67/68 L-88 (and a 348 truck motor) sold in Canada and possibly the USA. ...redvetracr
[Modified by redvetracr, 11:49 AM 6/8/2003]
The confusion (on my part) comes when Bill Culpper says "current version" BUT Joe Lucia (NCRS parts EXPERT) tells me it was discontinued in the 70`s replaced with the "R" cap. He also says service replacement for the 67/68 L-88 (and a 348 truck motor) sold in Canada and possibly the USA. ...redvetracr
[Modified by redvetracr, 11:49 AM 6/8/2003]
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
I think the common message from Bill, Joe and Clem and what little I know is that it's a service replacement cap sold over the counter (probably by the hundreds of thousands) by GM . NOT original equipment on any car. I used to have a few of them, used the last one up about 5 years ago. Whether they were sold just in Canada or also in the US is anybody's guess.
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Mike Ward)
It is a correct Delco Remy cap for an Oldsmobile 442 or Pontiac GTO. Not sure of the exact application but the Olds or Pontiac guys/gals could tell you. I had an NOS one and was confused as to the exact application, and a fellow who knew what it was paid me $150 for it. You will see them on Ebay from time to time.
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
I asked the "experts" at the NCRS site and got a confusing answer, so I will ask here and hopefully someone can explain it to me. I have a NOS brown cap with the markings Delco - Remy patent 571594 on the top and Delco Remy made in Canada in the inside, at the top. It does NOT have the word "pending" or the letter "R" on it. I also have the black/white/orange box with the number 1942654 and 1#D-309 printed on it. I would like to know the original use for this thing and if you care to guess as to it`s value PLEASE DO. THANKS IN ADVANCE ...redvetracr
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (pws69)
D-309 is a Delco number; ALL GM ignition systems were sourced in-house from Delco-Remy, AC, and Packard Electric Divisions, as were all the Service parts; Echlin was (and still is) an aftermarket supplier, but never supplied GM production parts. :thumbs:
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
The cap I have (according to NCRS parts "guru" Joe Lucia) is a service replacement cap sold in Canada (and possibly the US) for a 67-68 L-88.
...redvetracr
PS: It also is "correct" for some early 60`s TRUCKS with a 348" BUT i`m sticking with the L-88 angle.
...redvetracr
PS: It also is "correct" for some early 60`s TRUCKS with a 348" BUT i`m sticking with the L-88 angle.
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
The cap you have is not correct for any corvette application. D-309 Delco caps are brown and the Patent Pending, No R version is correct for L-88 and I believe L-89 cars. This 6 number (GM numbers are typically 7 numbers) cap you have is one of the few black, copper conductor caps that were made, but there were some others. You will notice it is a heavier plastic making it appear like it is for a heavy duty application
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Dave Strickland)
Dave Strickland,
The cap I have is BROWN not black according to the NCRS expert (Joe Lucia) it is a "service replacement" cap sold in Canada for a 67-68 L-88. The part number on the top is a "Delco-Remy" part number NOT a GM part number. Thanks for your input. ...redvetracr
The cap I have is BROWN not black according to the NCRS expert (Joe Lucia) it is a "service replacement" cap sold in Canada for a 67-68 L-88. The part number on the top is a "Delco-Remy" part number NOT a GM part number. Thanks for your input. ...redvetracr
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (redvetracr)
redvetracer,
I read Joe's response. He is truely a knowledgeable parts person and I respect his opinion. If you want to talk down to someone, do it to somebody else. Its responses like yours that make me and others not post on this or any other board. Thank you
I read Joe's response. He is truely a knowledgeable parts person and I respect his opinion. If you want to talk down to someone, do it to somebody else. Its responses like yours that make me and others not post on this or any other board. Thank you
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Dave Strickland)
Dave Strickland,
When I "talk down" to you you`ll know it!! If you had really read any of my above posts you would realize the words "correct" and "black cap" do NOT appear. You also did not read the private e-mail response I got from Joe lucia confirming that I was correct to assume the cap I have was a "service replacement cap" sold in Canada and possibly in the US for a 67-68 L-88 and an early 60`s truck with a 348".
END OF DISCUSSION!! ...redvetracr
When I "talk down" to you you`ll know it!! If you had really read any of my above posts you would realize the words "correct" and "black cap" do NOT appear. You also did not read the private e-mail response I got from Joe lucia confirming that I was correct to assume the cap I have was a "service replacement cap" sold in Canada and possibly in the US for a 67-68 L-88 and an early 60`s truck with a 348".
END OF DISCUSSION!! ...redvetracr
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Mike Ward)
Mike,
Aren't we all a bunch of hobbyists trying to learn and exchange information. These forums are supposed to provide a vehicle to do that. If we want abuse we can talk to a hostile client or some such person. People need to respect the ideas of others, especially those who took the time to help. Enough said, time to move on.
Aren't we all a bunch of hobbyists trying to learn and exchange information. These forums are supposed to provide a vehicle to do that. If we want abuse we can talk to a hostile client or some such person. People need to respect the ideas of others, especially those who took the time to help. Enough said, time to move on.
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Re: brown distributor cap ?? (Dave Strickland)
Mike,
Aren't we all a bunch of hobbyists trying to learn and exchange information. These forums are supposed to provide a vehicle to do that. If we want abuse we can talk to a hostile client or some such person. People need to respect the ideas of others, especially those who took the time to help. Enough said, time to move on.
Aren't we all a bunch of hobbyists trying to learn and exchange information. These forums are supposed to provide a vehicle to do that. If we want abuse we can talk to a hostile client or some such person. People need to respect the ideas of others, especially those who took the time to help. Enough said, time to move on.
Thanks Dave!
Paul
