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Originally Posted by Big Fish
You have to put yourself in the cop's shoes. He pulls someone over, do they have a gun pointed at him? I would be really nervous not being able to tell what the driver is doing. As far as the front plate law, it sucks.
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Originally Posted by Mr Cowl Hood
Not to sound cold but couldn't someone in the BACK seat have a gun aimed at the approaching officer?
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From: Willow Springs IL
Originally Posted by Big Fish
That's exactly why there are laws against having tint so dark that you can't see in.
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Originally Posted by Snidley
Guess he is a Vette enthusiast, too.
Its a good thing I ran into him then, because 10 minutes later I'm sure he could have ticketed me for something as I showed Ron the full sounds from the B&B's.
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Its a good thing I ran into him then, because 10 minutes later I'm sure he could have ticketed me for something as I showed Ron the full sounds from the B&B's.
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From: Dayton OH
As long as the front plate is the target for laser speed determination, all us 2 plate states are probably SOL
The reason that window tinting makes it hard for an officer to see what's going on in the car is not valid. The back could be tinted, blocking any activity there or there could be an AK47 in the back of a panel van. Just pass a law that if pulled over by a cop and you have tinted windows then you must lower the window(s) before the officer approaches. I could live with that AND its safer for the law.
Yeah, I know, we have fewer rights when in our cars and the authorities want to be able to see what we're doing in there so that they can pull us over.
The reason that window tinting makes it hard for an officer to see what's going on in the car is not valid. The back could be tinted, blocking any activity there or there could be an AK47 in the back of a panel van. Just pass a law that if pulled over by a cop and you have tinted windows then you must lower the window(s) before the officer approaches. I could live with that AND its safer for the law.
Yeah, I know, we have fewer rights when in our cars and the authorities want to be able to see what we're doing in there so that they can pull us over.
Last edited by 6shark9; Mar 11, 2005 at 08:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by 6shark9
The reason that window tinting makes it hard for an officer to see what's going on in the car is not valid.
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From: Dayton OH
Originally Posted by DevilDog II
I take it you've never made a traffic stop on a dark, deserted road at 3 a.m.
I'm all for officer safety!!!!
I've been stopped 3 times in 25 years, every time the window was down and my hands were on the wheel before the officer approached.
I've never had a tinted window (other than standard factory) on any car I've ever owned.
That's why I'd be in favor of a law requiring that windows be lowered if stopped. Thats 0% window tint when it matters most, but still allows the owner to keep the car cooler in the sunlight and protect the interior from sun damage.
I think that the purpose of no tint laws is not officer safety but rather to see if the occupants are consuming alcohol, smoking crack, not wearing seatbelts etc. In that case lawmakers should just say so.
Like I said, we have much fewer rights when in our cars, that's obvious, else we couldn't have curtains and blinds on the front and side windows of our homes.
Last edited by 6shark9; Mar 12, 2005 at 09:17 AM.
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The "original" intent was in fact officer safety. Depending upon the degree of tint, it can be very difficult to see inside a vehicle even with a spotlight shining on the passenger area.
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Hi Devil,
I have the upmost respect for your occupation and I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to argue.
I was just trying to make the point that if no tint laws are "originally" for safety then thats great. However such a simple compromise of requiring the windows to be lowered benefits everyone by allowing the benefits of tinting with the ultimate visibility that increases officer safety.
I know that compliance would be an issue, (education and the PA system could help)
Take care
I have the upmost respect for your occupation and I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to argue.
I was just trying to make the point that if no tint laws are "originally" for safety then thats great. However such a simple compromise of requiring the windows to be lowered benefits everyone by allowing the benefits of tinting with the ultimate visibility that increases officer safety.
I know that compliance would be an issue, (education and the PA system could help)
Take care
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Originally Posted by 6shark9
Hi Devil,
I have the upmost respect for your occupation and I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to argue.
I was just trying to make the point that if no tint laws are "originally" for safety then thats great. However such a simple compromise of requiring the windows to be lowered benefits everyone by allowing the benefits of tinting with the ultimate visibility that increases officer safety.
I know that compliance would be an issue, (education and the PA system could help)
Take care
I have the upmost respect for your occupation and I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to argue.
I was just trying to make the point that if no tint laws are "originally" for safety then thats great. However such a simple compromise of requiring the windows to be lowered benefits everyone by allowing the benefits of tinting with the ultimate visibility that increases officer safety.
I know that compliance would be an issue, (education and the PA system could help)
Take care
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Originally Posted by PHPD7102
Wow I envy you DevilDog........17 years to go for me!! 
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Steve congrads on your retirement . now you can bother Kevin 6 days a week
. now you can bother Kevin 6 days a week
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
I started in September of 1970 and I'm not sure where the time has gone. I won't miss the knuckleheads we deal with on a daily basis, but I'm really going to miss the people I work with. My last day is August 19th.
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Ha Ha Ha Sept. 1970 I'm thinking I was just out of diapers!!!
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Originally Posted by DevilDog II
Yes, my mission when I retire is to see if I can make Kevin miserable more than one day a week.
i think i have an old desk and a nice n' new chair sitting around that i could drop off for you to use when your there. we could set it up for you right in the middle of the two cars.
...or perhaps you would prefer a leather sofa?
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...or perhaps you would prefer a leather sofa?