Sounds like I have some catchin up to do with Mr Bigstuff.
BigStuff3
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Burning Brakes
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From: Cumming GA
BigStuff3
Ordered BigStuff3 should see it in about a week. BigStuff3 will control the Engine and Trans 1st aftermarket controller to do both.
4L80E and Torque converter are procured. going with a Coan Converter with Lockup.
I'm doing a Ford 9" rear and 4L80E this winter.
Anyone interested in Dana 44 with 4.09's and a ZF 6spd complete.
Let me know I'll seperate it too.
I'll have it all out sometime in January.
John
4L80E and Torque converter are procured. going with a Coan Converter with Lockup.
I'm doing a Ford 9" rear and 4L80E this winter.
Anyone interested in Dana 44 with 4.09's and a ZF 6spd complete.
Let me know I'll seperate it too.
I'll have it all out sometime in January.
John
Burning Brakes
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From: South Lyon MI
Not gonna stop until you break into the 10's are ya.
Isn't it kinda sacraligious to put a Ford 9" into a vette, got the shivvers when I read it.
Look forward to the spring, I gotta a few suprises up my sleeve also, I will probably need you and dad to help me with with a few.
Also, if you need a lift and fully complimented heated garage I should have Zilla off sometime in early January as long as parts show per schedule, might make the job a bit easier for the rear end swap.
Isn't it kinda sacraligious to put a Ford 9" into a vette, got the shivvers when I read it.
Look forward to the spring, I gotta a few suprises up my sleeve also, I will probably need you and dad to help me with with a few.
Also, if you need a lift and fully complimented heated garage I should have Zilla off sometime in early January as long as parts show per schedule, might make the job a bit easier for the rear end swap.
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John,
Enjoyed watching the car "jump" off the line at Milan this summer - good luck with what you do. Probably will have a few questions about tqc and use of same on the street with street tires - Still putting in the Kooks's headers this winter - wouldn't mind trying it myself, but would need a place and a "seeing eye dog" to lead me through it all. Want to put a Yank SS3600 on it as well, but have some questions about running same on the street without drag radials - like them on the strip but would prefer to use regular rubber on the street. However, I do not want to have to be a ***** on the street. Probably should talk with MikeE about "how to launch automatic power" on the street. He surely knows!!
Dennis
Enjoyed watching the car "jump" off the line at Milan this summer - good luck with what you do. Probably will have a few questions about tqc and use of same on the street with street tires - Still putting in the Kooks's headers this winter - wouldn't mind trying it myself, but would need a place and a "seeing eye dog" to lead me through it all. Want to put a Yank SS3600 on it as well, but have some questions about running same on the street without drag radials - like them on the strip but would prefer to use regular rubber on the street. However, I do not want to have to be a ***** on the street. Probably should talk with MikeE about "how to launch automatic power" on the street. He surely knows!!
Dennis
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From: South Lyon MI
John
If you haven't ordered your TC yet, you may want to consider a Chance unit out of Ontario, they are a bit pricy around 1600 for one but by far the best around when ou get to 650 plus hp. I am going to order one real soon just to have as a backup. If your interested I can get you some more information.
Mike
If you haven't ordered your TC yet, you may want to consider a Chance unit out of Ontario, they are a bit pricy around 1600 for one but by far the best around when ou get to 650 plus hp. I am going to order one real soon just to have as a backup. If your interested I can get you some more information.
Mike
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Burning Brakes
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From: Cumming GA
Glad to see some guys are alive on here too.
Mike,
I know its humbling to put a 9" in a vette, but to be honest I broke a spindle and splattered the U joints this past summer on the starting line two different occasions. If that happens at 100mph I would be in big trouble.
Regarding the TC, its sitting here next to me on the floor. Its a Coan, 265mm Max Performance Converter for a 4L80E. This converter is a lock-up converter and it has a billet turbine, its furnace brazed, and is an aluminum stator converter. Its going to stall at 3600-4000 depending on how much torque I make next spring. I researched TC for about a month, educating myself on all the BS. I wont be making the power your making with the twins, but I hope to apply it well with the 4L80E, its a tank.
I have been working with John Meany, he developed the Bigstuff3, and his vette is making 1550HP he went with a custom Coan converter for the 4L80e so thats what took me over the fence regarding suppliers. He went low 8's at 180mph no bar and a Dana 44 with 3.73s. Giddy UP!
Mike here is my Cel # 517-304-6990
Dennis
Regarding the Launching, its practice, but in order to practice you have to abuse your car, and most vette guys aren't into that, except the great lakes guys of course.
Jeff
You'll have 1st dibs on anything I want to unload if your interested. I know where your comming from.
We should talk too regarding the dinner on the 8th of Jan. Are you comming with my dad BlkTie8 and I?
Best Regards
John
Mike,
I know its humbling to put a 9" in a vette, but to be honest I broke a spindle and splattered the U joints this past summer on the starting line two different occasions. If that happens at 100mph I would be in big trouble.
Regarding the TC, its sitting here next to me on the floor. Its a Coan, 265mm Max Performance Converter for a 4L80E. This converter is a lock-up converter and it has a billet turbine, its furnace brazed, and is an aluminum stator converter. Its going to stall at 3600-4000 depending on how much torque I make next spring. I researched TC for about a month, educating myself on all the BS. I wont be making the power your making with the twins, but I hope to apply it well with the 4L80E, its a tank.
I have been working with John Meany, he developed the Bigstuff3, and his vette is making 1550HP he went with a custom Coan converter for the 4L80e so thats what took me over the fence regarding suppliers. He went low 8's at 180mph no bar and a Dana 44 with 3.73s. Giddy UP!
Mike here is my Cel # 517-304-6990
Dennis
Regarding the Launching, its practice, but in order to practice you have to abuse your car, and most vette guys aren't into that, except the great lakes guys of course.
Jeff
You'll have 1st dibs on anything I want to unload if your interested. I know where your comming from.
We should talk too regarding the dinner on the 8th of Jan. Are you comming with my dad BlkTie8 and I?
Best Regards John
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From: Howell MI.
Dennis
Originally Posted by Irish Whiskey
John,
Enjoyed watching the car "jump" off the line at Milan this summer - good luck with what you do. Probably will have a few questions about tqc and use of same on the street with street tires - Still putting in the Kooks's headers this winter - wouldn't mind trying it myself, but would need a place and a "seeing eye dog" to lead me through it all. Want to put a Yank SS3600 on it as well, but have some questions about running same on the street without drag radials - like them on the strip but would prefer to use regular rubber on the street. However, I do not want to have to be a ***** on the street. Probably should talk with MikeE about "how to launch automatic power" on the street. He surely knows!!
Dennis
Enjoyed watching the car "jump" off the line at Milan this summer - good luck with what you do. Probably will have a few questions about tqc and use of same on the street with street tires - Still putting in the Kooks's headers this winter - wouldn't mind trying it myself, but would need a place and a "seeing eye dog" to lead me through it all. Want to put a Yank SS3600 on it as well, but have some questions about running same on the street without drag radials - like them on the strip but would prefer to use regular rubber on the street. However, I do not want to have to be a ***** on the street. Probably should talk with MikeE about "how to launch automatic power" on the street. He surely knows!!
Dennis
You'll get really good launchs when you ,
Try some michelin pilots 750 a pair
I was fine with my runflats until I did the H/C
I AM JUST LOVIN MY vigilante CONVERTER MIKE now I see YOU'RE IN THE chance camp?
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I hope that Ford 9" works better for you then it did for a friend of mine. He's running a mustang with a supercharged and sprayed small block, blown the rear end about 12 times so far. I think he said he's now running an 8.8 and it's holding up a lot better.
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Burning Brakes
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Big Fish
Was your buddy running a trans-brake? I am supprised to hear that he was distroying the 9". I have some friends up here running 8.20's with a 9" off a trans brake, with good luck. I am doing building similar torque arm settup as they are, because of there 60 fts and reliability.
Thanks
John
Was your buddy running a trans-brake? I am supprised to hear that he was distroying the 9". I have some friends up here running 8.20's with a 9" off a trans brake, with good luck. I am doing building similar torque arm settup as they are, because of there 60 fts and reliability.
Thanks
John
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After talking to my rustang friend, got some more details. He thinks he may have been twisting the factory 9" housing because of his suspension, and also the factory housing is not nearly as strong as aftermarket units like Strange or Courier. You might have more success then he did if you are running a true 4 link suspension, it would help stop that twisting action. He was running his setup with a Detroit Locker and causing some serious damage every time he really jumped on it, most of the time scattering parts through the housing.
Burning Brakes
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From: Cleveland OH
Keep us updated on your BigStuff install. I have a FAST in mine and using the FastTrack harness, the stock ECU controls the 700R4's TCC solenoid. What's involved to get the 4L80E in your 1991? That should be a terrific setup once you're all done with it. What are you running now for ECU?
The self-learning functions among many other options in the BS3 look neat.
The new FAST (XFS I think it's called) was just released and can now control the TCC Solenoid. Not sure if its interface with the electronic tranny is as good as BS3.
Good luck,
Ron
The self-learning functions among many other options in the BS3 look neat.
The new FAST (XFS I think it's called) was just released and can now control the TCC Solenoid. Not sure if its interface with the electronic tranny is as good as BS3.
Good luck,
Ron
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Burning Brakes
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From: Cumming GA
Originally Posted by RonRed89
Keep us updated on your BigStuff install. I have a FAST in mine and using the FastTrack harness, the stock ECU controls the 700R4's TCC solenoid. What's involved to get the 4L80E in your 1991? That should be a terrific setup once you're all done with it. What are you running now for ECU?
The self-learning functions among many other options in the BS3 look neat.
The new FAST (XFS I think it's called) was just released and can now control the TCC Solenoid. Not sure if its interface with the electronic tranny is as good as BS3.
Good luck,
Ron
The self-learning functions among many other options in the BS3 look neat.
The new FAST (XFS I think it's called) was just released and can now control the TCC Solenoid. Not sure if its interface with the electronic tranny is as good as BS3.
Good luck,
Ron
The Big Stuff 3 will control everything function of the trans that the OE OBDII does. Line Pressure, shift point, slip, lockup etc. I still put a trans go shift kit in the bottom end but because its an 'e', all its functions are electronic. Thats the pricey part. The 4L80e is the same clutch and gears as a 400, and if you compare to the 4L60, you'll know why I went with the 4L80e. The clutchs have much more surface are than the 60's. Anyway I'm looking forward to getting it all ironed out, because when done it should be solid and easy to get down the track
Best Regards
John
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From: Cleveland OH
Originally Posted by Bowtie8
The Big Stuff 3 will control everything function of the trans that the OE OBDII does. Line Pressure, shift point, slip, lockup etc. I still put a trans go shift kit in the bottom end but because its an 'e', all its functions are electronic. Thats the pricey part. The 4L80e is the same clutch and gears as a 400, and if you compare to the 4L60, you'll know why I went with the 4L80e. The clutchs have much more surface are than the 60's. Anyway I'm looking forward to getting it all ironed out, because when done it should be solid and easy to get down the track
Interested in the 4L80E install on your 1991. Is that expected to be a drop in outside of the electronic connections for the trans? Is there a specific 4L80E to look for when doing this swap?
Thanks,
Ron
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Ron
The 4L80e is not a drop in. If your keeping the Dana44, you will have to have a bracket fabricated to adapt to the Torque arm.
Here is a link to some pics
http://bowtye8.tzo.com/bowtie8/corve...0Vette%20Pics/
I happen to be putting in a 9" Solid axle with a torque arm suspension, so the stock stuff will go away and I will be tieing the back of the 4L80E to a trans mount which the torque arm will land on as well.
I havent procured any pics yet, because I havent started it yet. It will get going here this weekend. Last weekend rained in MI, so I didn't move the car.
Best Regards
John
The 4L80e is not a drop in. If your keeping the Dana44, you will have to have a bracket fabricated to adapt to the Torque arm.
Here is a link to some pics
http://bowtye8.tzo.com/bowtie8/corve...0Vette%20Pics/
I happen to be putting in a 9" Solid axle with a torque arm suspension, so the stock stuff will go away and I will be tieing the back of the 4L80E to a trans mount which the torque arm will land on as well.
I havent procured any pics yet, because I havent started it yet. It will get going here this weekend. Last weekend rained in MI, so I didn't move the car.
Best Regards
John
