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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Considering the number of good DIY's with pictures, why not create a forum specifically for this? I know it would be helpful for autox'ers, rr's, and general repairs/mods for people who want to save some money or who don't want to bring their cars into a dealer or performance shop.

If it's a good enough thread, people can ask to have it moved to the DIY. I know from many experiences try to use FAQ that it mostly pertains to questions people have but not many specifics on DIY's. Also, searching all the forums for the right key words to find how to fix something yourself is tedious and slow.

Just a thought.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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In theory, that sounds good. But my objection would be that the entire Tech section could be considered a DIY section. A large portion of the posts there could be considered DIY.

I say bring back the kill stories and babe sections
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The DIY threads at the forum here are extremely valuable. In a perfect world, they'd be organized a little better but that's not so easy to do. The FAQ could indeed use a serious overhaul and cleaning... but depending on who does it, it might turn out to be worse than it is (good posts may get lost, etc)... sometimes better to leave well-enough alone.

What would be awesome is if somehow, ALL the excellent accurate info at the forum could be extracted from the many posts / threads, and then compiled into a CONCISE one-stop-shop info base, something that was highly organized and very easily searchable... like a mini-encyclopedia. That would be an incredible thing, but... the problem is, who is going to do it?

Plus, who would be the one to determine what info is correct and accurate or not. I have seen DIY threads that I feel are incorrect, bad and even dangerous. I don't think there is any one person at the forum that could accurately filter and correct ALL the info to perfection (we'd probably need Dave Hill for that ).

So... this is probably why it's best to just leave the FAQ as is... the info is there as everyone had posted it, and it's up to the user to determine what info is valid or not... and thus no one is responsible.

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...sorry for the blank post... an error on my part....

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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The DIY threads at the forum here are extremely valuable. In a perfect world, they'd be organized a little better but that's not so easy to do. The FAQ could indeed use a serious overhaul and cleaning... but depending on who does it, it might turn out to be worse than it is (good posts may get lost, etc)... sometimes better to leave well-enough alone.

What would be awesome is if somehow, ALL the excellent accurate info at the forum could be extracted from the many posts / threads, and then compiled into a CONCISE one-stop-shop info base, something that was highly organized and very easily searchable... like a mini-encyclopedia. That would be an incredible thing, but... the problem is, who is going to do it?

Plus, who would be the one to determine what info is correct and accurate or not. I have seen DIY threads that I feel are incorrect, bad and even dangerous. I don't think there is any one person at the forum that could accurately filter and correct ALL the info to perfection (we'd probably need Dave Hill for that ).

So... this is probably why it's best to just leave the FAQ as is... the info is there as everyone had posted it, and it's up to the user to determine what info is valid or not... and thus no one is responsible.

I agree, but I think all DIY's are an "at your own risk" regardless of how safe they are. One should do enough research to verify whether or not it's good or safe (plus hopefully have some common sense on obvious stuff).

The tech section is great, but it isn't a DIY. It's an all-encompassing forum to allow questions and ideas to be thrown around which include new mod ideas, tsb's, advice on where to find parts and who makes what.

A DIY section, on the other hand, would be locked threads of how-to's with pictures. All would come with an at-your-own-risk header (which I think is a given for any forum). For anyone wanting more info, questions, best shops to help with installs, etc., you can post on tech forum. Mod's could decide whether a thread is good enough to throw into DIY forum.

In the meantime, keep tagging your good how-to threads with "DIY" titles. I think it would help the search function immensely.
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As I read above some think the tech section is a lace for the posting of a good DIY post or discussion of one. I am the most disgruntled on the topic. I get little feedback (except for when I get slammed for not liking a favorite part) with good input. I further have to endure questions on how to wax cars and what color to make your valve covers. My point is that I would love to escape the things that should really be in the general section and not have to scroll down through the car care (waxing/cleaning) posts to get to the once in a while mod that upped power.

Head/cam posts are at a minimum and 90% of the guys with mods dont share what they did or bought. They read and get the mod then you never hear from them.

Most tech posts here are for the rumor mill crowd. Its speculation on what the 6.2 engine will be like. Will the new Z06 have a S/C? When will FAST make an L92 manifold? What type of power will a 441 make? These arent tech posts, they are rumor posts. Posting the results of a combo you bought or what track times you did is a tech post. Just scroll down the tech section and after 50 posts come up with a count of how many contributed to a power/performance increase for a car and how many are a general section question of how to make your car pretty.

Its a show-off section for tuners that dont want a DIY to be able to buy this cam and that head to get a prescribed result. I would love to have a section devoted to the wrencher that doesnt have to scroll past 20 chrome cover posts.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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If it works for the Moderators, have all posts in the DIY section require them to be approved for format and content before being officially posted. Moderators could also just copy all posts from other sections that they deemed to be a good DIY post. Kind of similar to the FAQ section.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Tech = Talk and debate on performance parts and their application


DIY = LOCKED threads of VERY well written (photos, videos, descriptions, etc) DIY guides to help those interested in considering some DIY mods.


Two different animals


I think this is a great idea! It may even give new ideas to those interested in mods but with no real idea as to the level of diffuculty.


Great idea Bill Doe.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Its a show-off section for tuners that dont want a DIY to be able to buy this cam and that head to get a prescribed result. I would love to have a section devoted to the wrencher that doesnt have to scroll past 20 chrome cover posts.
Thats why we have LS1tech.com

To be honest Spin I see two types of cars, by types I mean current cost. These tend to draw two different crowds. Sure, LS1Tech has plenty of guys that will throw their own H/C package together on their 10 year old Camaro, but is it because they love it or dont want to pay to have someone else do it? Who knows.

Same goes for the Corvette crew - you can't really expect every owner to jump into a 400/400 $40,000-$75,000 car and just start ripping apart the motor to make "more" power? I mean in all reality 95% of those that mod for power arent looking at track times or true performance gains. They just want to say to the guy next to them - "Check this $hit out!"

Thats about it! If you are after the backyard wrench monkeys you arent going to find many here. I'll admit though the tech section isn't what it seems, but as time goes on and more performance DIY'ers pick up used C5's and C6's you'll see more interesting combos.

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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We had a DYI section before. Jim, savewave, explained the problem at the cruise in. It is a custom section and the software programmers are expensive. Troy's first priority is servers to keep the biggest corvette internet forum quick; then he waits for a few software upgrades and saves money until the time is right. He wants to add the DYI section; but is waiting for the right time.

Becoming a supporting member can help.

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Adding a section in V Bulletin only takes a few clicks. All of maybe five minutes. Now if Jim is looking at doing something custom and linking it to the html from the front page that may take some time - but no one did that with the Forced Induc or Scan and Tune topics that were created.

Also this wouldnt be a "live" topic. Ideas would be sent to the DIY Moderator who would construct them into a well written DIY. Then post them under the appropriate DIY Model thread C6-DIY.


I'll volunteer to run the DIY Topic I know V Bulletin

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by valdeztke
Adding a section in V Bulletin only takes a few clicks. All of maybe five minutes. Now if Jim is looking at doing something custom and linking it to the html from the front page that may take some time - but no one did that with the Forced Induc or Scan and Tune topics that were created.

Also this wouldnt be a "live" topic. Ideas would be sent to the DIY Moderator who would construct them into a well written DIY. Then post them under the appropriate DIY Model thread C6-DIY.


I'll volunteer to run the DIY Topic I know V Bulletin
Adding a section is easy, and as we can see at the top of this page, customizing the drop down menus is not. We could have a section of locked post and that is what I did with the C5 & 6 Z06 FAQ post.

It does take a lot of time and work, and the all the mods are unpaid volunteers; that is why I'm taking a sabbatical from modding; I have Army school work and a deployment to the middle east to worry about.
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Originally Posted by MAJ Z06
It does take a lot of time and work, and the all the mods are unpaid volunteers; that is why I'm taking a sabbatical from modding; I have Army school work and a deployment to the middle east to worry about.
I ETS in OCT and will transition into a GS position (hopefully)


Wish you the best on your trip to the box sir!
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We had something similar before. It was called "Tech Tips". You can still get to some from the menu...it is a drop down from the "Other" menu.

It died when we switched forum software years ago.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/index.php

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti....php?TopicID=1
https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti....php?TopicID=2

No plans to bring them back are underway as far as I know.

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