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Old May 24, 2016 | 06:47 PM
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Anyone else having scrolling etc. delay issues?
Tried safe mode, no helf.
Installed firefox on brand new computer and have the same delay.
It's like the page loads slow and can't click on anything until done, abut 3 seconds
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I've seen a problem with page loading somewhat slow but the delay on my PC is only 1 or 2 seconds. A page will initially load quickly but as the loading completes, that's where I see the slowdown.

I have always seen messages at the lower left corner of the webpage that say "Loading (some URL or site by name) Loading of Facebook seems to the be worst and I have seen "waiting for facebook or twitter or some other URL take over an hour to complete. And CF is the only website where I see this.

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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
I have always seen messages at the lower left corner of the webpage that say "Loading (some URL or site by name) Loading of Facebook seems to the be worst and I have seen "waiting for facebook or twitter or some other URL take over an hour to complete. And CF is the only website where I see this.
When visiting CorvetteForum and you see a message in the browser's status bar showing something like "waiting for facebook.com" or "read facebook.com" - which are domains outside of the CorvetteForum and IB's network - that means your browser is connecting to that domain/server and traffic is communicating directly between you and that domain/server. CorvetteForum, in these cases, merely "direct" your browser to connect to the external domain/sever (facebook in this example). That traffic does not go through CorvetteForum directly. CorvetteForum does not host that content beyond a "hey, go to (insert external domain/server) and grab this file".

This means any stalls, lags, delays, are between you and the external domain/server. So if you're seeing delays "waiting for facebook.com" or "read facebook.com" then it's more likely there is an issue between your ISP and that domain/server.

I know I've made the above simplified and have stated it a few times but some may not believe it because the coined phrase "it only happens on CorvetteForum" but there are some pretty good, simplified and animated, examples that can be found on Google as to how this really works and how so many sites are made up of several, external, sources for content and features.

I use Firefox almost exclusively. I have noticed a 1-2 second delay between the page fully loading and then being able to scroll up or down. That's also including the fact I'm using an old i5 3rd gen (U) processor and what is now considered less than recommended 4GB of memory. Firefox, especially with plugins, has some history of not being the easiest browser to a computer's resources.
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Originally Posted by Cruisinfanatic
Anyone else having scrolling etc. delay issues?
Tried safe mode, no helf.
Installed firefox on brand new computer and have the same delay.
It's like the page loads slow and can't click on anything until done, abut 3 seconds
Others, including myself, having issues!
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ocking-up.html
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Others, including myself, don't have issues. In the other thread you linked, the OP stated changing their browser to Chrome fixed the issue for them. That would suggest perhaps there may be something specific to Firefox. I use Firefox almost exclusively and don't have any issue.

In order to assist, we need more information other than saying there is an issue. Are you still using Firefox as the others? And on an Apple? What version of Firefox and what add-ons and plugins? What is the result using a different browser?

The thing is, Firefox's race to updates means Firefox itself has changed and could be responsible. Might try rolling back to an older version.

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Others, including myself, having issues!
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ocking-up.html
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Others, including myself, don't have issues. In the other thread you linked, the OP stated changing their browser to Chrome fixed the issue for them. That would suggest perhaps there may be something specific to Firefox. I use Firefox almost exclusively and don't have any issue.

In order to assist, we need more information other than saying there is an issue. Are you still using Firefox as the others? And on an Apple? What version of Firefox and what add-ons and plugins? What is the result using a different browser?

The thing is, Firefox's race to updates means Firefox itself has changed and could be responsible. Might try rolling back to an older version.
As much as it pains me to say this, the issue has to be mostly Firefox. Using Safari on my mac is a seamless pleasant experience. There are no delays or lags like there are using Firefox. That being said, isn't there some way you folks (IB maybe) can get with Mozilla and compare notes and figure out what the issue is? I also must point out that only sites operated by IB have the issue with Firefox so some culpability does lie with IB.
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I personally use Firefox, as previously noted, nearly 100% of the time. I don't have any any such issue of the two different computers I use. I'm also involved on a few of Internet Brands' other websites and don't have issues there either. None of those sites do I recall any such reported issue by other members using Firefox.

If there was a known issue, and I also experienced it, I would be one of the first trying to figure it out because I won't use IE and I don't like Chrome. But when I don't have the issue it's pretty difficult to chase something that's not in my range.

Firefox doesn't come without its negatives. It is well known to be a bit bloated, which obviously something has to power that. They (Mozilla-Firefox) don't help much unless you're using a completely fresh profile with no add-ons. You don't do that (and who uses Firefox without add-ons and clean profiles?) and you pretty much get nowhere with them because it gets blamed on an add-on or profile issue. But they have all sorts of time to make real small GUI changes that really don't add value to the product while trying to do some sort of version number race.

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I also must point out that only sites operated by IB have the issue with Firefox so some culpability does lie with IB.
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Well, IB updated the forum software and guess what? ALL of my issues I was having using Firefox with this site have gone away!!! The hesitation, delays, scrolling etc, all gone. So thank you IB for this software update. Now I can stay with Firefox.
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I honestly don't think the two are related. But if you believe the issue is fixed, the end result is the same.

BTW, I still don't (and never did) have the scrolling issue that was reported by the few here with Firefox. There are quite a bit of Firefox users, too.

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Well, IB updated the forum software and guess what? ALL of my issues I was having using Firefox with this site have gone away!!! The hesitation, delays, scrolling etc, all gone. So thank you IB for this software update. Now I can stay with Firefox.
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I honestly don't think the two are related. But if you believe the issue is fixed, the end result is the same.
And in the words of Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Rule 39: "There is no such thing as coincidence."
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And of course Firefox also released an update prior to your post

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Originally Posted by J T
And of course Firefox also released an update prior to your post
Except I had not done any Firefox updates between my OP and the forum update. My post on 3 July, where I was still having issues, I had upgraded to 47.0.1 already. 47.0.1 was release 28 June, I updated that day or within a day, two days at most. I always check every day if there is a FF update. I was still seeing the lag and hanging until I logged in yesterday.

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So you must have custom settings in Firefox because, by default, Firefox checks for updates on its own and also applies them in the background. These tweaks, changes, add-ons (according to Firefox) is the primary reason for unsatisfactory behavior with Firefox.

Oh BTW, the forum software received an update several days before the 8th. It just wasn't announced until a few days after it occurred

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Except I had not done any Firefox updates between my OP and the forum update. My post on 3 July, where I was still having issues, I had upgraded to 47.0.1 already. 47.0.1 was release 28 June, I updated that day or within a day, two days at most. I always check every day if there is a FF update. I was still seeing the lag and hanging until I logged in yesterday.
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Oh BTW, the forum software received an update several days before the 8th. It just wasn't announced until a few days after it occurred
All I can tell you is that, the hanging ceased when I logged in on the 9th and made that post. I log in just about every day and until the 9th, I was having the issue. Maybe my cache got cleaned out? Who knows. But the evidence I have seen says the forum update fixed the issue. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

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The forum update actually occurred on the 5th. So that's 4 days of you still having the issue after the forum upgrade. The announcement was made on the 8th. The announcement wasn't made prior because it was not exactly a significant functionality change to the end user. No changes were made on the 9th.

I suspect it was possibly an ad (which means it may return since ads do rotate and many 3rd party ads are used) and/or it was with Firefox and specific environments. Like I said, I use Firefox personally 99.9% of the time and never experienced the issue. I like Firefox the best out of the other major desktop players (IE, Chrome) but Firefox still has some room for improvement with performance and memory usage.

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All I can tell you is that, the hanging ceased when I logged in on the 9th and made that post. I log in just about every day and until the 9th, I was having the issue. Maybe my cache got cleaned out? Who knows. But the evidence I have seen says the forum update fixed the issue. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
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Originally Posted by J T
The forum update actually occurred on the 5th. So that's 4 days of you still having the issue after the forum upgrade. The announcement was made on the 8th. The announcement wasn't made prior because it was not exactly a significant functionality change to the end user. No changes were made on the 9th.

I suspect it was possibly an ad (which means it may return since ads do rotate and many 3rd party ads are used) and/or it was with Firefox and specific environments. Like I said, I use Firefox personally 99.9% of the time and never experienced the issue. I like Firefox the best out of the other major desktop players (IE, Chrome) but Firefox still has some room for improvement with performance and memory usage.
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