Nor'easter...round two
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Maybe for gasoline and diesel, just looked at the specs for my NG/LP one: 18" from the house wall, 60" from any point on the generator for any wall openings (e.g. windows doors), 36" on the front and sides for any vegetation over 12", and 48" from any overhang or projections from the wall.
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That's the exact unit I'd like to have. The problem is that we have no natural gas in the street here. They can also be set up to run on propane, but I think I would need a massive propane tank to power it and I doubt a propane company would install a tank for a standy genny.
I'm probably going to get an 8000 watt portable when this is over. That should get me through most situations.
I'm probably going to get an 8000 watt portable when this is over. That should get me through most situations.
One of the guys I work with lives in West Milford, and got a 20K Kolher unit which runs on propane installed at his home. He said it was about $3500, I think. He ran the unit for about a week or so with the propane tank he had, but didn't have an accurate reading on how much it used up. However, the peace of mind these type of generators gives you is priceless.
I had a 4000/3500 watt unit for my home which used gas.Didn't have a transfer switch hooked up so I just used extension cords. I will DEFINITELY be getting a little larger unit (6500 watts) and a transfer switch pretty soon.
I may be selling this, so if anyone wants a Champion 4000/3500 watt unit with the wheel kit and cover let me know. It has about about 90 hours on it, I believe. I changed the oil after 5 hours, 50 hours, and after I just shut it down for the last time this past Saturday. It has run very well and it's fairly quiet.
George,or any other electrical savy people,if you read this, I have a gas furnace ,stove ,and hot water heater. Would this unit be enough to run the furnace, lights, fridge and sump pump? Or, should I get a 6500 watt unit like I'm thinking about?
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Unless he got it many years ago a 20kW Kolher is $4,600, add in the whole panel transfer switch then it is $5,200, and this just for the unit, before is before install and permits cost.
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I'm going to be getting a 20 Kw Kohler as soon as I get my house back into shape. I'm also going to put it up on a 3 foot high pad. Water was 3 feet high in the street. I got a foot in my family room. Water was about 2 feet in the back of the house! Garage only got 4 inches or so. Vette is fine. All my cars survived. Many folks had their generators go under water. I never had a drop of water in my house before so an above ground pad is something to consider.
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It was the smaller Kohler unit. I'm pretty sure he said it was 20Kw, and I'm pretty sure that was the price he said it was. I can ask him again tomorrow at work. Maybe find out where he got it too.
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One of the guys I work with lives in West Milford, and got a 20K Kolher unit which runs on propane installed at his home. He said it was about $3500, I think. He ran the unit for about a week or so with the propane tank he had, but didn't have an accurate reading on how much it used up. However, the peace of mind these type of generators gives you is priceless.
I had a 4000/3500 watt unit for my home which used gas.Didn't have a transfer switch hooked up so I just used extension cords. I will DEFINITELY be getting a little larger unit (6500 watts) and a transfer switch pretty soon.
I may be selling this, so if anyone wants a Champion 4000/3500 watt unit with the wheel kit and cover let me know. It has about about 90 hours on it, I believe. I changed the oil after 5 hours, 50 hours, and after I just shut it down for the last time this past Saturday. It has run very well and it's fairly quiet.
George,or any other electrical savy people,if you read this, I have a gas furnace ,stove ,and hot water heater. Would this unit be enough to run the furnace, lights, fridge and sump pump? Or, should I get a 6500 watt unit like I'm thinking about?
I had a 4000/3500 watt unit for my home which used gas.Didn't have a transfer switch hooked up so I just used extension cords. I will DEFINITELY be getting a little larger unit (6500 watts) and a transfer switch pretty soon.
I may be selling this, so if anyone wants a Champion 4000/3500 watt unit with the wheel kit and cover let me know. It has about about 90 hours on it, I believe. I changed the oil after 5 hours, 50 hours, and after I just shut it down for the last time this past Saturday. It has run very well and it's fairly quiet.
George,or any other electrical savy people,if you read this, I have a gas furnace ,stove ,and hot water heater. Would this unit be enough to run the furnace, lights, fridge and sump pump? Or, should I get a 6500 watt unit like I'm thinking about?
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Ralph, I install every major brand, for 14.4kw and up Kohler/Onan-Cummings/Detroit Diesel are top shelf, Generac/Honeywell 2nd, imho. I think the Generac/Honda/Coleman/Briggs-Straton for portable are basically even.
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Just got back from running the car at VIR on Monday and Tuesday. 6500 should be fine. Because your appliances are gas, the draw is miminal. I basically have the same appliances, and with the fridge compressor running, and my coffee pot brewing, and 90% of my recessed lighting (78 lights with led lamps) I amped the panel and was drawing 24amps. VXA=W, so 6500w is around 27a. most 6500w gens can handle a peak/temp full load of 8000w. Just be sure that it is rated running 6500w and has a higher peak rating. Steve's is good for about 75a running NG and 83a running LP, very good fo a whole house gen.
Also you know all the ckts i have here with all the people in my house, TVs and all my bathrooms. I have 220v 1 hp city water booster pump, the slop sink pump, a 220v 1 hp well pump for outside irrigation. Microwave going all the time.
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When you coming over to do the transfer switch panel?
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I went with the 20kW (specs say 18kW on NG) to run my pig of 4 ton AC unit, i could have run it with a 16kW, but to get to the 20kW was not much more at that point and it came with some small extras like the base skirt and i rather not have to run the unit at full load.
Also you know all the ckts i have here with all the people in my house, TVs and all my bathrooms. I have 220v 1 hp city water booster pump, the slop sink pump, a 220v 1 hp well pump for outside irrigation. Microwave going all the time.
Also you know all the ckts i have here with all the people in my house, TVs and all my bathrooms. I have 220v 1 hp city water booster pump, the slop sink pump, a 220v 1 hp well pump for outside irrigation. Microwave going all the time.
Yeah, thats just what you need in a power outage because nothing screams "I'm a baller" in a power outage like having your sprinkler system still automatically work. Gotta love this country.
"Howdy neighbor, no water? Hell you can shower in my sprinkler system". Now thats down right neighborly!!
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Yeah, thats just what you need in a power outage because nothing screams "I'm a baller" in a power outage like having your sprinkler system still automatically work. Gotta love this country.
"Howdy neighbor, no water? Hell you can shower in my sprinkler system". Now thats down right neighborly!!
"Howdy neighbor, no water? Hell you can shower in my sprinkler system". Now thats down right neighborly!!
But i do have a neighbor who is just on well water, so i can give them buckets to flush with if they need too.And if the pump to the city water tanks goes on top of my hill then i will have no city water, so i will need my well water.
However i do put on my porch lights to say, hey look at me i have power to spare and you have no lights, in my defense they are CFLs,
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Ralph,
I have exactly the same generator you do. I ran a refrigerator, a 20 cubic ft freezer, my boiler and a few lights with no problem. These were run all at the same time.
If you rotate appliances, you can run even more items.
I have exactly the same generator you do. I ran a refrigerator, a 20 cubic ft freezer, my boiler and a few lights with no problem. These were run all at the same time.
If you rotate appliances, you can run even more items.
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I'm not, because you're going to get a naturl gas whole gen set with automatic transfer switch. (BTW- you paid cash because you wanted to save the 7% tax on $200.00. And I thought we agreed that I would wire it when you had a transfer switch, I never thought that you still wouldn't have it 14 months later. I came out through the goodness of my heart and TEMP wired it. Don't forget to plug it in next time
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One of the guys I work with lives in West Milford, and got a 20K Kolher unit which runs on propane installed at his home. He said it was about $3500, I think. He ran the unit for about a week or so with the propane tank he had, but didn't have an accurate reading on how much it used up. However, the peace of mind these type of generators gives you is priceless.
I had a 4000/3500 watt unit for my home which used gas.Didn't have a transfer switch hooked up so I just used extension cords. I will DEFINITELY be getting a little larger unit (6500 watts) and a transfer switch pretty soon.
I may be selling this, so if anyone wants a Champion 4000/3500 watt unit with the wheel kit and cover let me know. It has about about 90 hours on it, I believe. I changed the oil after 5 hours, 50 hours, and after I just shut it down for the last time this past Saturday. It has run very well and it's fairly quiet.
George,or any other electrical savy people,if you read this, I have a gas furnace ,stove ,and hot water heater. Would this unit be enough to run the furnace, lights, fridge and sump pump? Or, should I get a 6500 watt unit like I'm thinking about?
I had a 4000/3500 watt unit for my home which used gas.Didn't have a transfer switch hooked up so I just used extension cords. I will DEFINITELY be getting a little larger unit (6500 watts) and a transfer switch pretty soon.
I may be selling this, so if anyone wants a Champion 4000/3500 watt unit with the wheel kit and cover let me know. It has about about 90 hours on it, I believe. I changed the oil after 5 hours, 50 hours, and after I just shut it down for the last time this past Saturday. It has run very well and it's fairly quiet.
George,or any other electrical savy people,if you read this, I have a gas furnace ,stove ,and hot water heater. Would this unit be enough to run the furnace, lights, fridge and sump pump? Or, should I get a 6500 watt unit like I'm thinking about?
I would have to figure out a propane setup since natural gas is not an option for me.
In the meantime I picked up an electric start Powerstroke portable last night at the local Costco.
I was on the fence, but it is a 6800W/8750W with a Honda Motor. I went for it at $980. I probably couldn't have gotten a comparable sized unit with a Chinese motor for a couple of hundred less, and I'm sure it would have been fine for my purposes, but I wanted to know that if I go to sell it down the road it has some value or if it breaks I can probably get it repaired.
The motor itself is warranteed by Honda for 3 years and is the exact same one they put own their own units for a lot more money.
This should hold me over until I can figure out what to do about a whole house unit.
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I don't have a sprinkler system But i do have a neighbor who is just on well water, so i can give them buckets to flush with if they need too.
And if the pump to the city water tanks goes on top of my hill then i will have no city water, so i will need my well water.
However i do put on my porch lights to say, hey look at me i have power to spare and you have no lights, in my defense they are CFLs,
But i do have a neighbor who is just on well water, so i can give them buckets to flush with if they need too.And if the pump to the city water tanks goes on top of my hill then i will have no city water, so i will need my well water.
However i do put on my porch lights to say, hey look at me i have power to spare and you have no lights, in my defense they are CFLs,
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