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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Anyone know anything about the car show at Robert Moses that is coming up this month????? Location?? Date??? Time????
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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No......i was told there is a show this month....at Robert Moses....a big show with judging and stuff........The OBI on sundays i know about.....thanks to the putz with the porsche, we now have more police presence there then we need...but oh well...........
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Originally Posted by F.J.B.
No......i was told there is a show this month....at Robert Moses....a big show with judging and stuff........The OBI on sundays i know about.....thanks to the putz with the porsche, we now have more police presence there then we need...but oh well...........
F.J.B.- Havn't heard about a show at Robert Moses at all. I am real interested also if there is one planned but if there is it is being covered (advertising) very poorly! Any shows at Robert Moses would have had to be held after Labor Day due to the Beach Traffic and parking issues. I can tell you my partnership company tried to secure any lot at either Jones Beach, Robert Moses, Long Beach, Point Lookout, etc. for a car Show and we were turned away flat.

BTW- You are right, its a shame a good thing at OBI was turned into a Police Action- lat Sunday they were back around 10:00 AM.

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I got a flyer about a show/swap meet at Robert Moses on 9/26/04 from 10am to 3pm. Its a benifit show for NYS Parks and Fire Island Lighthouse Presv. Society. The number to call for info is (631) 321-7028

Also the same day is an NCRS meet At Suffolk Community College (Selden Campus) I'm planning to attend this one.

Don't forget LICOA show at Ramp Chevy in Port Jeff. This Sunday.

September should be a good month to enjoy the Vettes.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Thats sounds like the one I heard about ROADVETTES...thanks...
As for the OBI...i havent made it there in a couple of weeks....but I am sure the added police presence makes entering and leaving a nice SLOW experience!!!!!
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The OBI on sundays i know about.....thanks to the putz with the porsche, we now have more police presence there then we need...but oh well...........
What happened with the putz in the Porsche? Don't know the story.

I couldn't believe how many cops were there last Sunday There must have been at least a dozen cops on the Ocean Pkwy, nailing people left and right. I noticed they were particularly hard on the bikers, with at least 4 pulled over on the way home.

At least 10 miles away from the OBI on the way home on the Ocean Pkwy heading westbound, my Escort 8500 found a Trooper in Z28 Camaro sitting behind a light pole, facing traffic on the shoulder with a photo radar gun pointed right at me. Fortunately, I was only doing 62 Sneaky bastage was trying to nail someone doing 100+, since that's the stretch where you could do it as its in the middle of nowhere. I found his little game out though - felt like giving him the finger as I drove by.
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I have seen some of the racing that goes on there and I think it needs to be watch just MHO
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Stingray its people like you that killed the obi on sunday mornings.
People like me? What's that supposed to mean?? You don't know me or what I do or don't do at the OBI. I happen to be relatively responsible when I go there, and don't horse around like a lot of people do. I pick my time and place to "have fun" (as I'm sure you do too) and summertime on the Ocean Pkwy isn't one of them.

Obviously you have no clue about what you are talking about. There isnt any photo radar on long island, that would have been a laser he had.
Look - I have a Escort Passport 8500. I was getting a full strength Ka Band signal when that trooper in the Camaro was clocking me. As I understand it, Ka-Band is called "Photo radar". Perhaps there is a difference from regular Ka Band and Photo Ka Band. I don't know, I'm not an expert on radar. As a trooper, hopefully you are and can enlighten me. It was definitely not laser though - it was Ka-Band. Which is fine by me, because I can pick up Ka Band from a mile away. Unlike laser which as you well know, is tough.

All the homeowners complained to the town because of the roads being blocked to get to their houses. Which in turn caused the town superintendant to come out.
If that was the case, then why aren't the cops writing parking tickets to make sure the roads to the houses are clear? Instead, all the cops are playing "hide and seek" on the Ocean Pkwy., with unmarked cars, miles away from the OBI, writing speeding tickets instead. Why? I know why. Because there's more revenue in writing speeding tickets than parking tickets.

As for one of the porsche incidents he was doing 112 with two young kids in the the car.
Well, he's an idiot. Does that make everyone going to the OBI an idiot? No.

Or are you referring to the two racing that nearly ran over 2 surfers trying to cross by Tobay.
The racing that was going on has no place there, especially in the summertime, I agree. Then again, surfers shouldn't be crossing a highway when its not safe to do so, but that's not the point.

But you are right the cops are scumbags for trying to keep people safe on the ocean.
I never called cops scumbags. You did. I find that perplexing since you're a cop yourself.

I have nothing against cops. I just think there are far too many of them in New York, deployed to raise revenue instead of fighting true crimes that are a danger to our society. ESPECIALLY on Long Island. Instead of being deployed to fight drug dealers, car thieves, murderers, rapists, and the like, cops are sent out to write speeding tickets, parking tickets, and other B.S. crimes. Why? Because all this generates revenue. Catching a murderer or car thief generates no revenue.

I mean come on - what I witnessed last weekend on the Ocean Parkway was nothing more than a mission to raise as much ticket revenue as possible, under the false guise of improving safety. A dozen cops on the Ocean Pkwy? Give me a break. If you really wanted to improve safety, what are all the unmarked cars for?

Does laser improve safety? No. It simply raises more ticket revenue.

If you've got a better explanation, I'm all ears...
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Damn Stingray.....if the Troopers , NCPD & SCPD werent out there generating revenue, your taxes would be alot higher then they already are dont ya think. As for the guy in the Porsche....wasnt he doing about 115 with two young kids in the car and he wouldnt stop for the cops....????? This to shall pass!
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Also on a side note....Didnt we recently lose a Bay Constable trying to pull someone over for what may be conceived as a BS Traffic Violation..?...Lets try and remember....that one of most dangerous jobs a member of the Law Enforcement Community is involved in is TRAFFIC STOPS>>>....2nd only to Domestics......
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Your right stingray he wasnt a scumbag but a bastage my mistake as you said. I dont see how you cant say you dont have problems with cops.
There's a big difference, IMO. Scumbag is much nastier than bastage. I called him a bastage, because he was playing games by hiding out like that. You know it, I know it. It's like hide and seek. Or, the way I say it, like a hunt. The cops are the predators lurking in the shadows preying on unsuspecting speeders. Its kind of survival of the fittest. The dumb ones get nailed often. The smart ones are always on the lookout for predators and avoid them.

OK, maybe I'm being too melodramatic, but you get the idea. I've seen troopers hiding out on the side of parkways hidden in bushes and trees, clocking people with laser. Or of course the favorite spot for cops - behind a bridge overpass. I mean its like jungle warfare. Where's the safety enhancement in that? On the contrary, I've seen some troopers hiding out in spots that were dangerous, and they could have easily been hit.

I've seen Troopers hiding in the bushes, at night, with an unmarked black Camaro, using laser on oncoming traffic. Explain to me the safety in that.

If the motivating factor was safety, and not ticket revenue, then you would never see an unmarked car, and laser would not be needed. You would have clearly marked police cruisers on the side of the road using radar. People would slow down when they saw the cruiser, and those too oblivious to see the cruiser and slow down, and get nailed by radar, deserve the ticket. Safety is enhanced, as speeds are reduced when people see the cruiser. No games. Safety #1. Yet this is not the case. Instead, its ticket revenue #1, safety a distant #2.

Whats up with the finger statement. If you were so upset with him why not just pull up and say something to him? Are you upset because he is doing his job?
I wasn't upset at him. Actually, I was kind of happy I caught him at his own game. I find it somewhat fun spotting cops playing hide and seek.

Look, what I was annoyed about was how the cops seemed to be having a field day writing tickets for anything they could. They specifically went out that morning to the Ocean Pkwy. to prey on the car and bike enthusiasts and try to write as many citations as they possibly could. Speeding tickets, parking tickets, seatbelt tickets, expired registration/inspection tickets, front license plate tickets, loud exhaust tickets, you name it. That's pretty nasty, IMO. There's law enforcement, then there's just being obnoxious. That was obnoxious.

It just seems you were upset you couldnt get a 100mph run in.
You're wrong. WAY wrong. Why do you always assume guilt? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Because I have a Corvette, I must always want to go 100 mph? Like I said before, you don't know me. Pretty presumptious on your part. Should I assume that because you have 500+ rwhp Vette that you routinely do 100 mph+?

Have I done 100+ mph in my Vette? Of course. Most of the time its been on the track (road course). Where its safe, and LEGAL. That's what I enjoy the most - going fast on a track. Not on public roads.

What I enjoy most is accelerating fast. Not cruising at triple digit speeds. So I'm quite content in cruising down the Ocean Pkwy at 62 MPH, which is what I usually do.

Its obvious you are not one of the homeowners over there. Maybe you would have a different view if you were.
As a car enthusiast, I highly doubt that. Anyway, where that Camaro was hiding out on the Ocean Pkwy. was in the middle of nowhere, miles away from any homes, and a good 10 miles from the OBI. I fail to see what good he was doing for the homeowners around the OBI.

Maybe if you were one of the original group that started coming up there you would think differently.
I've been going to the OBI since 1997. Not the original group, but close to it. The original group was actually a few LICOA guys who would meet there before going to a Sunday Brunch. While I was in LICOA years ago, that wasn't my thing.

What brings all the cops up there is when it gets out of hand.
I agree some stuff got out of hand. Mostly from a handful of idiots. This was about 2 years ago that I'm talking about. Fortunately, the idiots that I'm referring to, I haven't seen around there this year. I don't know what happened to them, but fortunately they're gone. This year, I see lots of car enthusiasts with some amazing rides showing off their cars in the parking lot and socializing, in a safe, fun environment.

For example when full blown race cars get trailered up to race. You have probably seen a few, the ones with the lexan windows, 14 inch slicks and open exhaust.
I haven't seen cars trailered in to race. If that happened, I agree that that is out of hand. But again, I never saw that at the OBI. The race cars that I have seen there, as you described, were driven in and driven out. The drivers were not looking to race anyone - they just wanted to show off their rides in the parking lot. In fact, the drivers of most of the race cars seemed to be among the most civilized when arriving and departing the OBI.

but then again I cant recall any fatal accidents that occurred from parking where as there has been quite a few from speed.
There have been no fatal accidents at the OBI that I'm aware of.

Speed doesn't kill. Stupid people with speed kills. Just like guns. Guns don't kill. Stupid people with guns kill.


You think that maybe the police presence there last sunday kept you at 62 instead of 100. Just a guess but maybe that was the whole purpose.
I went over this before. You're wrong. I set my cruise control at 62 everytime I go to the OBI. I even slow down for that 35 mph zone around the water tower traffic circle.

Best part is you didnt even have to get a ticket but it slowed you down and probably many others.
No, I was doing 62 before I saw the trooper, and I was doing 62 after I passed the trooper.

Like I said, if that trooper was interested in slowing people down, he wouldn't have been hiding behind a light pole in a black Camaro.

As far as a dozen or so unmarked cars you are dealing with nassau county, suffolk county ,state police , state park police, bay constables and babylon public safety all on the Ocean parkway.
That's exactly my point, and one of my biggest beefs I have with the NY police system. Why do we need SIX police jurisdictions all patroling the same roads and enforcing the same laws? ONE should be more than sufficient. I mean what a freakin waste of tax payer money! State Parkways should be patrolled by State Troopers. Nobody else. This is a classic case of big government that's gotten out of hand and in the process cost a ton of money and taken away much of our freedom.

Or maybe since there is only one way out of obi a seatbelt/equiptment violation roadcheck before the first u-turn. That most certainly would have generated alot more revenue.
Funny you mention that, because that ticket revenue generating stunt was pulled just the week before. No stone has been left unturned.

It might open your mind and maybe you might think twice about flipping off a cop.
My mind is very open. You appear to be the closed minded one, assuming that me and everyone else with a high performance car always wants to drive 100 mph and like an idiot. I'm insulted you associated me with the lowest common denominator of society. Is that what cops do?
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