Isaiah48

Has anybody heard about this race this Friday at MIR? From what I gather, an x Vette owner know owns a heavly modifed Shelby GT500 challenged a Stock Z06 to a $3,000. race this Friday at MIR. It was supposed to have taken place 3 weeks ago, but weather and Track events kept it from happening so it's supposed to be this Friday now... Here is a link to the thread on the Mustang side of the house about it all. http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...93#post1104893

gilly6993

should be a good race.....the Mustang guys are showing a lot of respect for the Z....even Ranger was mentioned in there....

back 40

500 miles? the Z might be in for a rude awakening, he hasn't reached full power yet, and unless he's a acccomplished driver, he hasn't got the feel for the car yet at 500 miles. From the GT owners comment about " trust me, i know these guys", that implies he thinks this guy can't drive.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

The starter of the thread Maniax racing, is a forum member here. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/member.php?u=250898

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1918179

Yes, they are "somewhat" familiar with Ranger and portions of The C6 Z06 Fast List however their "facts" on it are well misplaced.

They make reference to that list, but some of their references to it are incorrect.

Jamie Furman is the quickest in a bone stock C6 Z06,.... be that on drag radials or street tires.

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...2&postcount=11

"I am a member on Corvetteforums.com and checked the z06 section and found that they have a list compiled and the average for a stock z06 is 11.46 @ 124. Now this is with Ranger and a few others dipping into the 10's bringing the average down."

You better look at that list again. There is only ONE ten second bone stock stock runflats time on that list. That average of 11.46 comes with some 17 cars on it. 5 out of 15 bolt ons Zs are currently into the 10s

Secondly, they mention that Ranger's car was "tuned". Ranger's car was never tuned.

Finally, this guy is going to a lot of trouble to mod that car, but in reading that thread, I doubt that Z06 is going to show up in bone stock trim. 3 grand on the line, I doubt that seriously.

Isaiah48

I have a buddy that I go MIR to race with frequently and he has a GT500 with several mods and he's putting down 512rwhp. He's a good driver having had several blown Mustangs that I raced against over the years, his new GT500 is running 11.7's on without Drag Radials. He's putting on Drag Radials this weekend which should take him to 11.4's. The guy racing the Z06 probably has 75-100rwhp more than my buddy, so he's going to be hard to beat if he can drive the thing well. If it was Ranger or Jamie Furr, I'd bet on the Z06, but if the Z06 guy is a new owner than I'm pretty sure the GT500 going to get it.

By the way; hopefully we'll have a double header on Friday, my buddy going to be in his GT500 and I'll be in my Z51 with H/C. I'm in the process of putting new Stage 3 milled heads on along with porting my Intake and Throttle Body. With him sporting new Drag Radials and me with my new Heads, it's going to be close. His previous non DR time is 11.70 and my best cam only is 11.76. I know I'll have the heads and porting done, but dialing in my tune in time is going to be tough...

GrillnZ

Drag race...*yawn*...they should do a road course.

hpaddict

I'm guessing by "several mods" you mean that they're all appearance and or suspension... As for as "power" mods go, GT500's will make more than that w/ just a cai and proper tune...

Isaiah48

He has CAI, Smaller Pulley, CB and a Safe Tune. 512rwhp is about right for that setup, another guy had the exact same setup put on last week and dyno'd 518rwhp with a little more aggressive tune...

STANGGT40

if he's only making 512rwhp, it will likely come down to the drivers. considering the shelby weighs, what?...almost 4k lbs.?

edit...i just looked it up, and the coupe weighs 3,920lbs.

z06 = 3,150lbs.

800lbs. is about an 80hp difference, which puts them pretty equal...(z06 is likely in a better position)

hpaddict

Never thought to ask; Mustang Dyno??

In that case; you're right (sorry but dynojets run standard around my area so that's my default mindset when numbers are thrown out)

STANGGT40

i just clicked the link, and this guy's sig says, "6xx rwhp 6xx lbs tq."...if that's the case, then it's going to the gt500. there's no way that the z06 is going to be able to make up that difference in stock form.

OneSickZ06

I always thought the same. But the gearing is horrible. The fastest GT500 in florida is Letahl Performances' which has the Gen 2 Whipple 3.4L blower, making 725rwhp/698rwtrq. On drag radials in went a best of 10.64 @ Brandenton M.S. Park. I would say the car is good for 10.2's at best. I know the owners of Lethal persoanally so save the flaming.

STANGGT40

your z06 is stock?

OneSickZ06

Because Dynojet is the best out. Proving technology with the correct results. Again any dyno can be fiddled with by a untrust worthy shop owner.

Isaiah48

The guy with 512 is my buddy which has 75-100 less than the guy racing the Z06. I'm going to be racing my buddy with a Z51 with H/C...

OneSickZ06

callaway honker cold-air only. I've ran all 4 of my buddies with them. All stock blowers and had no chance. Swap the blower and I'll need a good tune to run.

hpaddict

The one in question (in the other thread) has 600+rwhp. But just for your scenario, 80hp doesn't make up for 800lbs. Nor the 700 or so lbs that probably actually separates the two cars... A stock Z should easily walk a 518rwhp shelby cobra due to the weight, gearing, and aero advantages.

OneSickZ06

I make 485rwhp/465rwtrq(est) with the intake. It takes a 615+rwhp shelby to out beat my buy 1-2cars depending if it's a dig or roll race.

OneSickZ06

Easily isn't even the word. I can shift at 6K rpm every gear and still get 5 cars.

STANGGT40

wow! i thought that those cars would be doing better than that! i would think that 725rwhp and almost 700rwtq would put even that heavy car deep in 9's with just a decent driver. i know that it's hard to "shift" into the 9's, but damn...