JIM07

I love my vette but I think I am ready for a change. I want to like the CTSv but the looks just don't grab me. It is easy to upgrade the C63 to 530-540 HP and it weighs about 500 lbs less than the CTSv. Pricing is similar. Yea---Nea , other options???

JerriVette

I've driven the Mercedes C AMG and its fun. The CTS V though slaughters it.

The CTS V can be purchased for 60 grand or there abouts..

I recomend considering it again. I'd buy the new CTS V coupe in a heartbeat and might just..

Maybe you'll like the look of the two door over the four door?

K-TownMike

Does the C63 really weight that much less than the V? If that is the case I would definitely go for the Benz and modify it.

rutiger

my vote is for the v. i have driven both as i was considering them. didn't buy either though. my reason for choosing the v is that i like the interior better, the stereo/nav is far better than the c63, and mods are less money. ever check prices on headers and exhaust for the c63?

JIM07

Thanks for the input Guys! Yes the c63 is 500lbs less in weight but is a smaller car. Thats O.K. with me. The gas mileage does stink (12-18) for the c63. I will take a look at the ctsv coupe to see if I like the lines better. I have seen very mixed reviews on this board from one extreme to the other abouts the looks.

o2z51

Why not the bmw alpina b7 super rare and gorgeous 08's run in the 65-70 range.

BluegrassMotorsport

My vote is for the V. It is faster, has a better warranty, get's better fuel economy, looks better (but I suppose that's more like an opinion), and it still costs less than the Mercedes. Plus, when both warranties run out, do you know how much maintenance is on ANY Merc? Wow, it's epic lol

C6Manny

both are great cars.. I spent this past weekend driving my friends c63 and loved it. Another alternative would be a used e60 bmw m5. They are also great cars and used ones can be found for under $40,000.
If you are only considering brand new, the m5 will be more expensive than the V and c63.

o2z51

v resale is baals so is the benz, the alpina is a collector car

MVR 155

If you dont need the space then it would be a tough choice (as I also think the benz is a more eye appealing car), the V has more space and is a better performer. Caddy has done a great job but they are still a tad behind in the interior quality compartment along with fit/finish compared to the benz. Lots of very serious performers out there.... I guess its good to have to make these kind of choices. I was at the Chicago Auto show today as Im beginning to try and figure out what car I will be replacing my Acura TL Type S with (about 12 months down the road)...... definately looking to up the stakes in terms of performance, next time around I will be buying a previous year car with 10-15K on it and looking to drop around $45K so on my current radar are the 2010 Audi S4 and 2009+ Caddy CTS-V...... Im leaning towards the Audi as its AWD and with Chicago winters I think it will be the better car to own.

Tzzird

Another vote for the c63.

JIM07

There is an Alpina for sale here in San Antonio. A 2003 z8 for $190,000 Beautiful car , but out of my price range!!! I don't know if I have ever seen a B7.

JIM07

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11003012...ngine-revealed I think my choice is going to be the 2011 c55t or what ever MB decides to name it. 563 HP and 664 TQ before tuning I think the CTSv has meet its match! Not to mention 500lbs lighter.

waltk88

I vote C63. That 6.2 AMG V8 sounds amazing. The C63 also has the most communicative steering this side of a Porsche Cayman and seats that are just awesome.

Guibo

I don't think the weight difference is that much. MB were overly optimistic about the C63's weight, IMO. In Euro tests with some very lightly optioned cars, they never got anywhere really close to the claimed weight figure. All the more remarkable considering that the official weight figure includes the weight of a driver and luggage, per Euro norms.

C&D figures:
CTS-V - 4277 lbs
C63 - 4034

As for tuning, I can't imagine that the C63 will be cheaper to modify. I don't know how the two will stand up over time, but the interior quality from the few minutes I've sat in them seems pretty comparable; the Benz looked almost too austere though, to me.
If you like to shift for yourself, the CTS-V would be the only choice. I have a hunch the V will offer a better ride than the C63 too. AMG marked out the M3 for driving dynamics, but they sacrificed the Benz's (usually) better ride. I think they've bundled the LSD into the Performance Package, which makes the ride even worse.
Either way, I'd prefer the the CTS-V.

Z0Sick6

I am a big amg lover, had a CL, SL amg, and picking up an SL600.

Do NOT GET THE C63 OVER THE CTS-V you will regret it. The interior is way cheaper than the cts-v, also a lot slower.

The c63 engine is getting replaced.. go check it out they just released beginning this summer the S-class will receive the new amg engine. the naturally aspirated thing didn't work out. It will now be a 5.5 TWIN TURBO around 560hp.


The new m3/m5/m6 is also going to have a v8 twin turbo.

take a read of this:

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...re-torque.html


any questions let me know. I am big into the amgs

KMK454

I think both cars are great. However...

The C63 AMG is an automatic only. Yes, it's a "paddle shift" car, but that's still a slushbox in there. And even if it was a true F1-style paddle shift setup, it would still fail because it has only two pedals. AMG's lack of manual transmissions ranks as one of the greatest automotive tragedies of our time.

The CTS-V comes with a 6-speed manual and three pedals. Case closed.

waltk88

The C63 ride with the Performance Package is very harsh. Until this model year the only way to get the limited slip diff was with the Performance Package. This year LSD is a standalone option on the C63.

Guibo

^Thanks for the update.


I would also consider this (which looks better than the coupe, to my eyes):




http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v-wagon.html

Having seen the standard CTS wagon up close, which looked damn good, I think this one should be pretty sick.

my_blue_c5

Here's an Alpina B7 on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=140388527451