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Old 04-17-2013, 07:30 PM
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Completely different car sans drivetrain, turbo TA's still ran 13's stock., regular GN's are capable of some crazy times, those engines were built solid , 87 GN's regularly whipped corvettes at the strip, talk about holding value, and going up,nice GN's are more than original sticker, the GNX even in this weak market go for 70's, an a/c equiped 10 second GN will be my defiantly be my next car
Did you mean completely diff suspensions?? The turbo ta had a Buick motor in it, same everything except for diff heads and exhaust manifolds. The gn could not hook for **** due to small tires and crappy sus. Thats why ASC changed the sus design in the gnx.
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Plymouth Duster 340

AMC Javelin 304
AMC AMX 390

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Old 04-18-2013, 12:24 AM
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Thank goodness the factory Olds pace car effort fishtailed and crashed in the '71 Indy 500, because it allowed Hurst to step in and handle the '72 race, which included some Vista Cruiser wagon support vehicles with 455, scoops, and wild decals!


World's first SUV!!
Hurst Luxury and performance in 1970, the Hurst Chrysler 300.......

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Old 04-18-2013, 08:10 PM
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AMC AMX 390

Great car!!! never got the real press i think they deserved..
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:20 PM
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Not a lot on low end grunt ,but from 4k to red line she pulls as hard as any big block.She has 410 gears and a M21 box
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gnfanatic View Post
Did you mean completely diff suspensions?? The turbo ta had a Buick motor in it, same everything except for diff heads and exhaust manifolds. The gn could not hook for **** due to small tires and crappy sus. Thats why ASC changed the sus design in the gnx.
Yes I did my bad, totally different chassis is what I meant, much heavier car , as far as the engine the turbo TA had the better GNX turbo, and intercooler, if I'm not mistaken.
What it really comes down too , is as nice as the Turbo TA is, Buick motor or not, it is still a 3rd gen f-body, so its not nearly as special.
I also don't think it had the special suspension that loaded up the rear that. The GNX came with., the GNX is just a special car and the only muscle car in the 80's that has tripled its value in some cases, over doubled the value in most cases .

The car right now is worth more than most used Zr1's'!!, I will have a GN soon, I won't bother with a GNX cause I want to mod the car and drive it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:52 PM
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Anybody remember the Dodge Omni GLH-S?
I had a buddy who had 22 Turbo Dodges in his yard, just so he could have one "nice" Omni.
Til the county came by and made him clean up. As they probably should have.
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:41 AM
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Anybody remember the Dodge Omni GLH-S?
I had a buddy who had 22 Turbo Dodges in his yard, just so he could have one "nice" Omni.
Til the county came by and made him clean up. As they probably should have.
The late Mr. Shelby believed in the car! GLH-S - Goes Like Hell Some More!! Maybe one of the best front drivers of all time!

Of the European cars 1979-81 M535i was the first M sedan BMW made. It did 0-60 mph in 7 seconds and had a top speed of 140 mph. Some were gray market imported into North America in the early '80s, along with the 745i turbo. 745i was around 55 grand in 1982, lol.




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Old 02-17-2014, 07:48 AM
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There are some rides that were well respected, popular, or both, back in the day. The special cars Hurst and Oldsmobile collaborated on qualify, what others can you think of?



Hurst/Olds



SD 455 T/A
You think the 455 TA is underrated or under-appreciated??? That just isn't so, it was very popular.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:12 PM
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You think the 455 TA is underrated or under-appreciated??? That just isn't so, it was very popular.
Well yes, at the time the SD cars were known, but it was the fuel crisis and these kind of cars were hard to sell. Most went for the regular L75 455 or the plain 400s. AMC had the same problem selling the final 2 seater AMXs, they hung around dealer lots forever.

Today, I don't think the SD 455 Trans Am or Formulas are as well known as they used to be. There was an earlier and later 455 HO (1971/72 and 1975/76) which has confused things for the younger crowd who might not know the distinction.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:43 PM
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"Giant Killer" 1966 Chevy II SS L-79 327/350 under 3000 pounds....retailed for $3,210

What’s now known as the “second generation” was introduced in 1966. When the car underwent a massive redesign, it produced a much sharper-edged look. The car featured an almost fastback-like rear window and deck lid, as well as more-pronounced front fenders and wider grill. But what really showed that the car had arrived on the muscle car scene was the L79 option offered by Chevrolet.

This small block 327-cubic-inch beast produced 350 horsepower, well exceeding the hallowed ground of one-horsepower-per-cubic-inch goal hot rodders sought. Straight from the factory, this engine already had the parts needed to make it get down the track, making the need to head down to the nearest speed shop a waste of time. Forged high-compression pistons, a high-performance camshaft, over-sized valves, an aluminum intake and a four-barrel Holley carburetor made this car a terror right off the showroom floor. And to top it all off, the motor came with chrome valve covers and an oil cap to make it all come together. Buckle all that up with the factory Muncie four speed and you had a combination that was hard to beat.

The body sat on a 110-inch wheelbase with an overall length of 183 inches and a curbside weight of less than 3,000 pounds. Forty-one colors were available, either in one solid finish or an endless combination of two-tones that would satisfy the most picky owner. Interior options such as AM/FM push-button radios, rear window defrosters, tinted windows and the standard front buckets and center console made the ride a comfortable one. Add power steering, power brakes and factory air conditioning and you had the best of both worlds: luxury and performance.

There were only 5,481 L79 models made in 1966. Only six examples were made in 1967 before GM dropped the option altogether. After 45 years, the car is one of the more sought-after classic cars by muscle car enthusiasts, and finding one for less the $40,000 is a challenge. The 1966 Chevy II was a lightweight, high-output giant killer that surprised many a big block at the light and on the track. In 1966 Chevy showed the muscle car world how it was done and created a legend.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:42 PM
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Really guys, because there's been various cars manufactured that do this. Most notably the MR2 with the 4AGZE.

It's just a clutch, a person with basic mechanical knowledge can figure that out.







(With that said yes, the Madmax blower WAS fake though.)
I know this tread has been resurrected from the dead (4 years) but if you can show me a v8 with a roots 671 blower w/carbs on top that you can use a clutch system to turn on and off ---- I all buy ya one! Basic mechanical knowledge hmm, get you sum.
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Old 08-03-2014, 02:30 PM
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The European Capri was a simple and sporty machine. With hindsight Ford USA should have gone with the European Escort and Capri, and not bothered even developing Pinto or Mustang II. A Canuck Capri 302 would have been neat. Would have liked to see that speedo climb to 230 kph!



In 1982 Capri Euro was faster than the Mustang GT 5.0


Then there was the 302 V8 powered South African Perana Capri.

Perana Capri 302
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:29 PM
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Those were with the Yamaha V6 engine. The later mid 90s (weak) models came with the small displacement Yamaha V8.
92 Taurus SHO engine..

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Grand National/T-Type/Turbo T/GNX

The car is/was confused as a Monte Carlo SS or dogged for having a V6.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:08 PM
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1969 Camaro ZL-1 - Made possible by Fred Gibb
69 Total made - Fred ordered 50 of them to make it happen. Rated at 425hp, and I'm sure you've all heard the claimed 500+hp rumours.

Any L88 Corvette - GM actually rated the L88 lower HP than the L71, but the discerning purchaser, if he read and knew about the L88, knew it was the powerhouse.

I would also say 1969 Corvette ZL-1 but it's not muscle and only 2 were made. Same goes for the L88 Vette's, although more were produced.

Agreed on all Syclone, Typhoon, and GN comments. GM did a great job setting up those vehicles with Turbo 6's.

Also like the DZ302 Z/28 Camaros. The Boss 302 Mustangs were also nasty.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LU8 View Post
There are some rides that were well respected, popular, or both, back in the day. The special cars Hurst and Oldsmobile collaborated on qualify, what others can you think of?



Hurst/Olds



SD 455 T/A
Love the pic. I remember these. Body style (headlights n front end) from 1974-1976.
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Originally Posted by LU8 View Post
The European Capri was a simple and sporty machine. With hindsight Ford USA should have gone with the European Escort and Capri, and not bothered even developing Pinto or Mustang II. A Canuck Capri 302 would have been neat. Would have liked to see that speedo climb to 230 kph!



In 1982 Capri Euro was faster than the Mustang GT 5.0

Capri 2.8 Injection You Tube

Then there was the 302 V8 powered South African Perana Capri.

Perana Capri 302
aka: The sexy european.
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Originally Posted by LU8 View Post
Well yes, at the time the SD cars were known, but it was the fuel crisis and these kind of cars were hard to sell. Most went for the regular L75 455 or the plain 400s. AMC had the same problem selling the final 2 seater AMXs, they hung around dealer lots forever.

Today, I don't think the SD 455 Trans Am or Formulas are as well known as they used to be. There was an earlier and later 455 HO (1971/72 and 1975/76) which has confused things for the younger crowd who might not know the distinction.
I actually love the styling of the 1970-1973 T/A the best. 1970 had the 400 engine. 1971, 1972 had the 455 HO
In 1979 you could get a 70 T/A for $4,500
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