New CTS to have 420-hp TT V6
03-18-2013, 12:45 PM
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Burning Brakes
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New CTS to have 420-hp TT V6
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/18/c...usauto00000016
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
03-18-2013, 12:57 PM
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No - it's perfectly on topic - this is the 4 door, twin-turbo, 8-speed auto Corvette so many are clamoring for.
03-18-2013, 01:09 PM
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I can't understand why GM doesn't release correct information about the production, makes no sense.
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03-18-2013, 01:17 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/18/c...usauto00000016
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
03-18-2013, 01:18 PM
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http://www.carscoops.com/2013/03/off...-cts-gets.html
Power vs weight suggests the base Vette will have no problem kicking the living crap out of even the 420 hp CTS let alone the entry level one.
03-18-2013, 01:19 PM
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Melting Slicks
Maybe this TT V6 will show up in a future C7 model.
03-18-2013, 01:22 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/18/c...usauto00000016
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
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03-18-2013, 01:23 PM
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What it does open up the door for the CTS-V getting the LT4 S/C V8 and the ATS-V will definitely have a version of this TT V6.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
03-18-2013, 01:25 PM
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"At launch, the 2014 CTS will also feature the naturally aspirated 3.6-liter V6 rated at 321 horsepower, as well as a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine delivering an estimated 272 horsepower."
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/03/off...-cts-gets.html
Power vs weight suggests the base Vette will have no problem kicking the living crap out of even the 420 hp CTS let alone the entry level one.
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/03/off...-cts-gets.html
Power vs weight suggests the base Vette will have no problem kicking the living crap out of even the 420 hp CTS let alone the entry level one.
03-18-2013, 01:25 PM
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What it does open up the door for the CTS-V getting the LT4 S/C V8 and the ATS-V will definitely have a version of this TT V6.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
Pretty soon I will have an all GM garage at home and be totally happy!
03-18-2013, 01:28 PM
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03-18-2013, 01:32 PM
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Le Mans Master
Yeap!
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/18/c...usauto00000016
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
Holy hell! I know this is technically off-topic, and the direction I'm going with this may get me some negative feedback, but does anyone else think that this is yet more evidence that the 450-hp number for the LT1 we've been given is *extremely* conservative?
If a regular CTS will be putting out almost as much power as a Vette, then GM has really changed up the way they position their performance cars... And I don't believe that to be the case. There was once a time, as we know, where a V had the same power plant as a Vette. Those days may be gone, but I still find it hard to believe that a base Vette won't at least have straight line performance that kicks the living crap out of any entry level Caddy.
03-18-2013, 01:36 PM
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What it does open up the door for the CTS-V getting the LT4 S/C V8 and the ATS-V will definitely have a version of this TT V6.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
The LT1 isn't coming in at 450hp. I think its about 99% certain now.
GM Powertrain is on the forefront right now. They are taking it to Ford's Ecoboost and the German FI V6s.
Also, that 8 speed you guys have been clamoring for looks like its done. Might want to wait until 2015 for it to hit the C7.
"Done" as in dropped, or as in completed and ready to go?
03-18-2013, 01:41 PM
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I would have preferred a V8 turbo. A variant of this LF3 engine with more boost might be offered in the ATS-V, but I'm still hoping for a LT1.
I hope all these Caddys get the option of AWD and dual clutch transmission so I can buy another GM instead of another import this year, because I am definitely no t buying a C7.
I hope all these Caddys get the option of AWD and dual clutch transmission so I can buy another GM instead of another import this year, because I am definitely no t buying a C7.
03-18-2013, 01:48 PM
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As in completed. Hard to believe that it won't make it to the Corvette next year.
Hard for some to believe but, I think the powertrain guys might have been more focused on getting the 8-speed to the new CTS than the Corvette.
Hard for some to believe but, I think the powertrain guys might have been more focused on getting the 8-speed to the new CTS than the Corvette.
03-18-2013, 01:50 PM
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These turbo sixes are truly amazing, my 6cyl ford eccoboost gets 17mpg city and 28mpg hwy in my 4300lb MKS AWD,no lag and it feels like a big 8cyl with plenty of torque.
I was going to lease the XTS but went for the lincoln MKS because it had the twin turbo's rated at 365hp. Now that GM will offer this in the XTS it will be my next DD.
I was going to lease the XTS but went for the lincoln MKS because it had the twin turbo's rated at 365hp. Now that GM will offer this in the XTS it will be my next DD.
03-18-2013, 01:50 PM
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03-18-2013, 01:53 PM
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And I would guess fitting one into a Caddy is a lot easier than fitting one into a Corvette. It's also a lot more necessary.
03-18-2013, 01:58 PM
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Totally off topic. Which has the larger backseat a Camaro ZL1 or CTS-V (Coupe). I've never seen the inside of either in person.
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03-18-2013, 02:21 PM
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Not much, in terms of the non-turbo V6 and the turbo-4. The 420 hp one might get a jump, but I suspect the base Vette will reel it in after that. To more closely align itself with the foreign competitors, it's going to be tough for an AWD CTS to come in under 4000 lbs. The 550i xDrive with 8-speed auto is only a 12.8 sec @ 111 mph car in the 1/4 mile.