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Old 06-06-2018, 10:29 AM
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With the used prices of 430 coupes coming down recently I have been on the fence about one. I currently have a 2015 C7 Z51, but am also asking myself if the driving experience would be that much different? I know the 430 is an older car but I'm curious on owners opinions. Any info would be great in helping me decide if I should even bother to go test drive one. Thanks!

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Do some research about maintenance. I remember the 360 had timing belts that were an engine out replacement but can not remember is the 430 got rid of the belts or they redesigned it such that the belts could be replaced with the engine in the car.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:23 AM
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Do some research about maintenance. I remember the 360 had timing belts that were an engine out replacement but can not remember is the 430 got rid of the belts or they redesigned it such that the belts could be replaced with the engine in the car.
I know anything older than a 430 is engine out. The 430 does not, hence why I'd only consider a 430 or up.
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The 360's timing belts are done with the engine in the car. The 430 is a great car and you should do it. Get the 6 speed. They are a little more money than the F1 transmission. The fun factor and value is worth the price over the F1 transmission. Less issues too.
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Do it!
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The 360's timing belts are done with the engine in the car. The 430 is a great car and you should do it. Get the 6 speed. They are a little more money than the F1 transmission. The fun factor and value is worth the price over the F1 transmission. Less issues too.
They will also hold/go up in value more than the F1 cars.
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Go test drive one Continental has a couple and Bill Kay Chevrolet has one since you are nearby. Lake Forest has one maybe more. If you go to Continental, ask for David Alexander.
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Originally Posted by Yukon Corleone
Go test drive one Continental has a couple and Bill Kay Chevrolet has one since you are nearby. Lake Forest has one maybe more. If you go to Continental, ask for David Alexander.
Thanks, I'm not far from there at all.
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430 has chain drive on cams, no belt engine out service. To me, The automatic, E gear is not what I would buy. Make sure you get a percentage reading on the clutch. This shows wear on the clutch. The E gear system is a manual transmission that has computer controlled hydraulic systems that do the actual gear change and also control the clutch movement. New clutch is $7,000- $ 12,000 at dealer. You can change the clutch yourself, but then you must trailer the car to a dealer to set up the clutch values in the ecu for the clutch to work correctly.
Also, the exhaust manifolds are a well known problem with cracking. Look for white powder coming out from the exhaust manifolds insulation covers. There is an updated mark 2 manifold from the factory, but they still have a cracking problem. Most people install aftermarket manifolds, but, $$$. The ceramic carbon brakes, if equipped will cost around $20,000 to rebuild if the dealer does it.
Super nice car, but expensive to service. Also, $100,000 for a ten year old car. But it’s a FERRARI. If you have your eyes open, do it!

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His is a Scud. Totally different league. I want one so bad!
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430 has chain drive on cams, no belt engine out service. To me, The automatic, E gear is not what I would buy. Make sure you get a percentage reading on the clutch. This shows wear on the clutch. The E gear system is a manual transmission that has computer controlled hydraulic systems that do the actual gear change and also control the clutch movement. New clutch is $7,000- $ 12,000 at dealer. You can change the clutch yourself, but then you must trailer the car to a dealer to set up the clutch values in the ecu for the clutch to work correctly.
Also, the exhaust manifolds are a well known problem with cracking. Look for white powder coming out from the exhaust manifolds insulation covers. There is an updated mark 2 manifold from the factory, but they still have a cracking problem. Most people install aftermarket manifolds, but, $$$. The ceramic carbon brakes, if equipped will cost around $20,000 to rebuild if the dealer does it.
Super nice car, but expensive to service. Also, $100,000 for a ten year old car. But it’s a FERRARI. If you have your eyes open, do it!
Thank you! This is the type of information I'm looking for. How is the overall driving experience? Not sure if you've driven a C7 or not but any type of comparison to anything else you have driven would help. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp View Post
Thank you! This is the type of information I'm looking for. How is the overall driving experience? Not sure if you've driven a C7 or not but any type of comparison to anything else you have driven would help. Thanks!
Yes I have driven C7 ZO6 on track. Different feel from the 430, but driver for driver, about the same performance on track. Vette, more low end torque, Ferrari, crazy sound from 9000red line. Vette more comfortable on road trips. Ferrari way more exotic. Vette electronic nannies up to date, Ferrari nannies very intrusive, more of a crude feeling compared to modern electronics. Fuel mileage on vette normally driven can get to 28 mpg. Ferrari ,,,bout 12 mpg. vette holds more luggage,Ferrari turns more heads.
Hard to compare and rate as they are both great, but different.
You must own at least one Ferrari to have a complete life. But, apples and oranges, ,,,,,,hard to decide.
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Yes I have driven C7 ZO6 on track. Different feel from the 430, but driver for driver, about the same performance on track. Vette, more low end torque, Ferrari, crazy sound from 9000red line. Vette more comfortable on road trips. Ferrari way more exotic. Vette electronic nannies up to date, Ferrari nannies very intrusive, more of a crude feeling compared to modern electronics. Fuel mileage on vette normally driven can get to 28 mpg. Ferrari ,,,bout 12 mpg. vette holds more luggage,Ferrari turns more heads.
Hard to compare and rate as they are both great, but different.
You must own at least one Ferrari to have a complete life. But, apples and oranges, ,,,,,,hard to decide.
Thank you for all this info.
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His is a Scud. Totally different league. I want one so bad!
He prob traded it already for 488 but a Scud is an incredible car. Hell I would even enjoy a plain Jane 430
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Thank you for all this info.
Your welcome, So,,,,, ?

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Originally Posted by Racer86
Your welcome, So,,,,, ?
I think I'm definitely going to set up a test drive. It's one of those things where I have to finally know. I'm sure a lot of it may be in my head but at very least I want to see how different it is. I would prefer to then find a manual if possible.

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He prob traded it already for 488 but a Scud is an incredible car. Hell I would even enjoy a plain Jane 430
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp View Post
I think I'm definitely going to set up a test drive. It's one of those things where I have to finally know. I'm sure a lot of it may be in my head but at very least I want to see how different it is. I would prefer to then find a manual if possible.
Good luck with that. I was at "Cars on 5th" in Florida last winter. I tried to buy a 2006 430 with the gated manual, but the seller thought was worth $150,000.00, mostly because of the 3 pedals. I bought a 458 Spyder, with 3,000 miles for $240,000.00 instead. Get set for heavy depreciation. If losing 25% of the investment in a year, or 2 bothers you, stick with the Corvette.
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp View Post
I know anything older than a 430 is engine out. The 430 does not, hence why I'd only consider a 430 or up.
That's not right... 3x8 series cars can be serviced with engine in. Same with the 550 and 575 and earlier models.
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