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proof once and for all that the Vette doesn’t actually compete with real super cars, the point is that although your Z06 is a world class performer only the ultra rich own super cars based on prestige.
A few quotes as to why you should feel bad:
“In the car world, Vettes are Vettes and Ferraris are Ferraris you filthy peasant, and though the Z06 is objectively stupendous, the far more expensive 488 is worth the money — and, more importantly, is a Ferrari.”
“Let's just get to the pricing right up front. To own the 458, you need to have the $250,000 and a willingness to accept that anything additional will cost a lot more. Also, you might not be able to buy the car.
Ferrari produces fewer than 10,000 total vehicles every year and sells them all. So even if you have the means, you could end up waiting for the privilege of ownership, as a matter of fact you probably can’t afford a Ferrari anyways”
proof once and for all that the Vette doesn’t actually compete with real super cars, the point is that although your Z06 is a world class performer only the ultra rich own super cars based on prestige.
A few quotes as to why you should feel bad:
“In the car world, Vettes are Vettes and Ferraris are Ferraris you filthy peasant, and though the Z06 is objectively stupendous, the far more expensive 488 is worth the money — and, more importantly, is a Ferrari.”
“Let's just get to the pricing right up front. To own the 458, you need to have the $250,000 and a willingness to accept that anything additional will cost a lot more. Also, you might not be able to buy the car.
Ferrari produces fewer than 10,000 total vehicles every year and sells them all. So even if you have the means, you could end up waiting for the privilege of ownership, as a matter of fact you probably can’t afford a Ferrari anyways”
I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Vette was “destroyed” especially when it’s pointed out that Vette spanked Ferrari where it counts...at the race track...
Overall the article felt somewhat biased against Corvette but not as bad as I’ve seen other times..
St. Ripe Knight just because the author's editorial bias aligns with yours doesn't make it accurate or factual. Ferrari's recent admission that cars were 'tuned' differently when given to magazines for testing begs the question how this one got through. Having said all that, Ferraris are absolutely beautiful, rolling works of art. I just wish they truly lived up to their racing heritage. For the most part these prancing horses are really just show ponies. Sad really.
Not to mention that Ferrari is in a court battle over some dealers rolling back the mileage on newer cars to keep prices up. Don't believe it go over to Ferrari forums and search. They have a programming tool that can do it and Ferrari knew and turned their head.
I love my Z06 and it fits two sets of golf clubs or luggage for two for the wife and I to go on a weekend getaway. If I had a Ferrari, I don't think I could tell my wife she can't bring all the clothes and shoes she wants because the $250,000 car she just help buy won't fit it.
Also the Z06 is obtainable to most of the working class Americans. Especially if you buy one used you can be driving one for $50K.
Lastly I could afford the maintenance on a Vette. I doubt I could afford a brake job on a Ferrari.
They have a programming tool that can do it and Ferrari knew and turned their head.
They didn't turn their heads at all. Maranello was actively involved. The DEIS tool wouldn't alter odometer values without first receiving an authorization code from the server in Maranello.
WTF!
How is it the Feds aren't all over this like they were with VW?
My guess would be lawyers and the fact that this isn't a Federal matter. Nobody knows how many cars were affected, and Ferrari corporate can probably throw their dealers under the bus by saying they abused the tool or something. You can program whatever you want into your odometer, but it's not a crime until you misrepresent it in a sale. That comes down to the state level rather than Federal, and the individual owners would be the ones guilty of a crime at that point.
It'll probably get bounced around in court for a few years until the parties agree to settle. The only winners are the lawyers, as usual.
Corvette has been no slouch on the racetrack. In fact, Corvette Racing has bested the 488 at places such as the Rolex 24 at Daytona, where in 2016 a pair of Vettes finished 1-2.
Everything else in the article is pure ferrari masturbation. When the rubber hits the road, it's Corvette all the way, at 1/3 the price. So much for the Italian "supercar".
The Z06 wasn't "destroyed" in this article at all. In fact, I think it was a pretty spot on article and was summed up nicely:
"I would be delighted to own the Z06, but the 488 is just so, so much more exclusive. You can't even call it snob appeal, though that's part of it. Ferraris simply occupy a different plane of consciousness."
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C1 of Year Winner (performance mods)
2017 Corvette of the Year Finalist
2016 C2 of Year
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My buddy has a new 488. We drove both his 488 and my C7 Z06 M7 back to back recently. The Vette felt slightly faster and the handling was comparable. I actually preferred the Z06. He admitted that they are very close and the Vette obviously was far better bang for the buck. To quote him, "Performance wise, the Ferrari has nothing on this."
Obviously for wow factor, the 488 wins. Both great cars
I love my Z06 and it fits two sets of golf clubs or luggage for two for the wife and I to go on a weekend getaway. If I had a Ferrari, I don't think I could tell my wife she can't bring all the clothes and shoes she wants because the $250,000 car she just help buy won't fit it.
For the love of all that is holy...why on earth would anyone want a wife in their Ferrari?
proof once and for all that the Vette doesn’t actually compete with real super cars, the point is that although your Z06 is a world class performer only the ultra rich own super cars based on prestige.
A few quotes as to why you should feel bad:
“In the car world, Vettes are Vettes and Ferraris are Ferraris you filthy peasant, and though the Z06 is objectively stupendous, the far more expensive 488 is worth the money — and, more importantly, is a Ferrari.”
“Let's just get to the pricing right up front. To own the 458, you need to have the $250,000 and a willingness to accept that anything additional will cost a lot more. Also, you might not be able to buy the car.
Ferrari produces fewer than 10,000 total vehicles every year and sells them all. So even if you have the means, you could end up waiting for the privilege of ownership, as a matter of fact you probably can’t afford a Ferrari anyways”
They didn't turn their heads at all. Maranello was actively involved. The DEIS tool wouldn't alter odometer values without first receiving an authorization code from the server in Maranello.
You act as if Ferrari corp was progressive and involved. Not the case. It took lawyers getting involved with the S. Fl dealer where it was exposed to ratchet things up before corp started talking. Been going on longer than anyone knows just like you said they don't even know how many were done. Once is more than enough to give pause, but there were more than that as I understand it. And my info was from those close to it or involved, not a report as you linked.
06-07-2018, 03:56 AM
Ferrari destroys the Vette :(
