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Old 10-25-2018, 12:04 PM
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I saw on facebook they built a zl1 with heads/cam/kong ported lt4 blower and got 846rwhp through an auto. I thought 740 or so was absolute max for the lt4 blower? How is this? Dyno that far off?

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I saw on facebook they built a zl1 with heads/cam/kong ported lt4 blower and got 846rwhp through an auto. I thought 740 or so was absolute max for the lt4 blower? How is this? Dyno that far off?

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Porting the heads and blower changes things substantially... the blower is now able to move the air much more easily and with less heat generated. A supercharger is nothing more than an air pump, and boost is a measure of restriction. Less differential pressure needed by the blower to overcome restriction means more flow.
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Heads/cam don't do much for ultimate power if the blower is maxed out. The blower essentially becomes the restriction. A blower can only move so much air and support so much power. Heads remove some restriction and therefore lower the boost pressure of the blower at any given pulley combo but that doesn't substantially change the HP made.

obviously porting the blower helps. However, unless Kong has some secret magic sauce, blower porting adds 30 to 40 hp. Most of the dynos I've seen of 1.7L lt4 blowers making low to mid 700s in power were already ported. Getting the blower to support over 100rwhp more seems almost impossible.
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Originally Posted by ArcticWhite
Heads/cam don't do much for ultimate power if the blower is maxed out. The blower essentially becomes the restriction. A blower can only move so much air and support so much power. Heads remove some restriction and therefore lower the boost pressure of the blower at any given pulley combo but that doesn't substantially change the HP made.

obviously porting the blower helps. However, unless Kong has some secret magic sauce, blower porting adds 30 to 40 hp. Most of the dynos I've seen of 1.7L lt4 blowers making low to mid 700s in power were already ported. Getting the blower to support over 100rwhp more seems almost impossible.

100% correct. All the porting might add 30 on a good day. 780 is is highest we have ever done and as soon as the water warmed up......dropped 25hp...
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I can see why there would be doubters. Its a big jump even from the highest LT4 we built prior to this one. I've never doubted the numbers off the Mainline dyno but I'm also not claiming that you will always gain 100hp at lease not until we can back it up with 1/4 times mph and other cars netting the same results.

For now its just a number but I can say this car feels very strong on the street even on a big tire.

Edit: Before this car we did make 780hp on a non ported blower with a stock throttle body in the middle of July.

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100% correct. All the porting might add 30 on a good day. 780 is is highest we have ever done and as soon as the water warmed up......dropped 25hp...
Not 100% correct. There are so many variables to consider. No one goes to a bakery for a dental filling, as no one goes to a garage to perform PD slippage calculations. Feeding it more air and limiting restrictions will definitely yield more results. The inherit flaws of positive displacement are evident in any size. The benefit is they operate anywhere in their curve, the downside is slippage (not belt or pulley). A previous post mentioned that it is an air pump. That is 100% correct. So efficiently moving air in and out is the key to success. Some shops will find that perfect combination. Some will try the same thing over and over again and be satisfied with the same result.

There are PD blowers utilizing Teflon seals on their rotors making north of 60 psi. That material seals the rotors better than an interference coating, limiting slippage from discharge to suction, keeping the Supercharger efficiency higher.

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Default Matt @ Dedicated reset the stock blower record yesterday.


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