E-ray almost confirmed???
11-08-2018, 01:28 PM
#41
Burning Brakes
I agree with you. I used to enjoy getting on this forum and reading what some members have to say. I don't enjoy it as much any more. Getting more like the other Corvette Forum's. The forum's that some people avoid.Too many on here looking for an argument. Could it be that crackheads are driving Corvettes now?
11-08-2018, 04:24 PM
#42
Team Owner
The NSX failure: I could easily option one to $190K (Carbon Ceramic brakes, Carbon Fiber pieces, all standard on the ZR1) and have a COMBINED 573HP.
The C8 hybrid is NOT to improve fuel efficiency (Escalade, a luxury SUV), but for performance.
That is why I wouldn't use them to compare.
The C8 hybrid is NOT to improve fuel efficiency (Escalade, a luxury SUV), but for performance.
That is why I wouldn't use them to compare.
Corvettes have had pretty good sales records over the years, and not a single one has been a hybrid. They also have had pretty good gas mileage(since the C6). In fact I averaged 29.2 MPG on a vacation to Colorado, New Mexico and Utah while driving fast on the Interstates(85 MPH) and slow in the mountains and small towns, in my C6 Z06. I enjoy both great fuel economy and performance in my ICE Z06.
On my neighborhood street in middle America, every single vehicle(43 of them on my street) is powered by an ICE with only two being hybrids( a Prius and a Honda Civic Hybrid). That's what middle America thinks about EV's and hybrids. There are more ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood than EV/hybrids, and a hell of a lot more ICE pickup trucks and SUV's than ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood.
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11-08-2018, 05:08 PM
#43
Le Mans Master
The NSX hybrid was not to improve gas mileage either, but to improve performance, and it still is a sales failure. So what makes you believe that a C8 hybrid will be any different?
Corvettes have had pretty good sales records over the years, and not a single one has been a hybrid. They also have had pretty good gas mileage(since the C6). In fact I averaged 29.2 MPG on a vacation to Colorado, New Mexico and Utah while driving fast on the Interstates(85 MPH) and slow in the mountains and small towns, in my C6 Z06. I enjoy both great fuel economy and performance in my ICE Z06.
On my neighborhood street in middle America, every single vehicle(43 of them on my street) is powered by an ICE with only two being hybrids( a Prius and a Honda Civic Hybrid). That's what middle America thinks about EV's and hybrids. There are more ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood than EV/hybrids, and a hell of a lot more ICE pickup trucks and SUV's than ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood.
Corvettes have had pretty good sales records over the years, and not a single one has been a hybrid. They also have had pretty good gas mileage(since the C6). In fact I averaged 29.2 MPG on a vacation to Colorado, New Mexico and Utah while driving fast on the Interstates(85 MPH) and slow in the mountains and small towns, in my C6 Z06. I enjoy both great fuel economy and performance in my ICE Z06.
On my neighborhood street in middle America, every single vehicle(43 of them on my street) is powered by an ICE with only two being hybrids( a Prius and a Honda Civic Hybrid). That's what middle America thinks about EV's and hybrids. There are more ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood than EV/hybrids, and a hell of a lot more ICE pickup trucks and SUV's than ICE Corvettes in my neighborhood.
The original NSX was light, nimble with decent power (for the time) out of their V6. The new NSX is very short on people's expectation. Heavy, expensive, under powered and about 5 years late.
11-08-2018, 05:31 PM
#44
Team Owner
The C6 and C7 ZR1's don't get anywhere near 29.2 MPG. The hybrid route gives the Corvette an option to produce 1,000HP with acceptable fuel efficiency. The AWD will help putting the power down. It will be a flagship. It will happen.
The original NSX was light, nimble with decent power (for the time) out of their V6. The new NSX is very short on people's expectation. Heavy, expensive, under powered and about 5 years late.
The original NSX was light, nimble with decent power (for the time) out of their V6. The new NSX is very short on people's expectation. Heavy, expensive, under powered and about 5 years late.
I would say that the NSX is very quick, but it's still not selling.
11-08-2018, 05:34 PM
#45
Le Mans Master
I saw the SEMA eCOPO Camaro. It was an impressive car, but I didn't see much that will be directly transferred to a Corvette version. The electric motor and controller package was heavier than I expected at 500 pounds. The impressive thing with AWD electric cars such as the Tesla models, is how consistent and drama free the acceleration is. They can make to 0-60 mph passes within a hundredth of a second of each other. Quarter mile times are within a few hundredths.
11-08-2018, 07:15 PM
#46
Le Mans Master
Who knows, maybe because of the V6, weight, price or competition?
11-08-2018, 10:29 PM
#47
Team Owner
11-09-2018, 08:32 AM
#48
Melting Slicks
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Not unreasonable to think that GM won't include some "electric" in the top tier C8. Even if priced beyond the average Corvette buyer, "guestimates" of $169K for the top dog C8 will be priced well below the other top dog competitors (and likely closely match or even exceed their performance)..
11-09-2018, 11:22 AM
#49
Le Mans Master
That would include me as well. My preference for the top dog would be a lighter weight, RWD 800hp ICE ME C8, but based on the video of previous Corvette chief engineers I think the 1,000hp hybrid is a strong possibility for a price of ~$170K. People will line up to get that limited car and spend over $200K.