OnStar Notice
Racer
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Woodinville WA
I received an email from OnStar today notifying me of a change to their Terms and Conditions. The short story is that they can share the information they gather on your driving to law enforcement, public safety officials, credit card processors, and/or third parties conducting marketing initiatives for OnStar. I called them about this and they said yes it's true. I also asked if they share any of this information with insurance companies, and they said yes they do with certain companies that they have agreements with, State Farm being one of these. I asked specifically if they track vehicle speed and they said they don't, but they have GPS tracking, which would give them ground speed as well.
I don't know about you all, but this is big brother out of control. I currently have 2 vehicles with OnStar and I'm seriously considering cancelling both. I almost cancelled today, but I've learned not to make decisions when I'm mad. So I'll think it over and decide later in the week.
Thought you all shoudl know.
Take care,
Dave
I don't know about you all, but this is big brother out of control. I currently have 2 vehicles with OnStar and I'm seriously considering cancelling both. I almost cancelled today, but I've learned not to make decisions when I'm mad. So I'll think it over and decide later in the week.
Thought you all shoudl know.
Take care,
Dave
Here is a story for you...
http://jalopnik.com/5842450/onstar-w...cancel-service
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,631
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From: Pocatello Idaho
I received an email from OnStar today notifying me of a change to their Terms and Conditions. The short story is that they can share the information they gather on your driving to law enforcement, public safety officials, credit card processors, and/or third parties conducting marketing initiatives for OnStar. I called them about this and they said yes it's true. I also asked if they share any of this information with insurance companies, and they said yes they do with certain companies that they have agreements with, State Farm being one of these. I asked specifically if they track vehicle speed and they said they don't, but they have GPS tracking, which would give them ground speed as well.
I don't know about you all, but this is big brother out of control. I currently have 2 vehicles with OnStar and I'm seriously considering cancelling both. I almost cancelled today, but I've learned not to make decisions when I'm mad. So I'll think it over and decide later in the week.
Thought you all shoudl know.
Take care,
Dave
I don't know about you all, but this is big brother out of control. I currently have 2 vehicles with OnStar and I'm seriously considering cancelling both. I almost cancelled today, but I've learned not to make decisions when I'm mad. So I'll think it over and decide later in the week.
Thought you all shoudl know.
Take care,
Dave
Safety Car
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From: Manchester - Political correctness is tyranny with manners.
Burning Brakes
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From: Everett WA.
Racer
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Woodinville WA
BTW... The 87 does not have On Star...
It just has the random electrical gremlin option. LOL
Last edited by Seattle C4; Sep 25, 2011 at 02:49 AM.
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Everett Wa
I get so tired of the misinformation that surrounds this subject. Here is the new agreement in total:
http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/web...t-2011-USE.pdf
About the only changes is they will be collecting information even if you are cancelled. Understand OnStar data is only a snapshot in time, they do not monitor 24/7, that today is impossible. The data they sell has no personnel information associated to it. All it says is at this date, at this time, at this location an OnStar equiped car was running this speed.
Why would they want to sell this data, there is money to be made. Advertizing companies will use the data to place billboards. Police?, easy where to setup patrols. Insurance, none of the data will do them any good. Can they get specific data about you, not without a court order and they are not going to get that to track your driving habits.
http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/web...t-2011-USE.pdf
About the only changes is they will be collecting information even if you are cancelled. Understand OnStar data is only a snapshot in time, they do not monitor 24/7, that today is impossible. The data they sell has no personnel information associated to it. All it says is at this date, at this time, at this location an OnStar equiped car was running this speed.
Why would they want to sell this data, there is money to be made. Advertizing companies will use the data to place billboards. Police?, easy where to setup patrols. Insurance, none of the data will do them any good. Can they get specific data about you, not without a court order and they are not going to get that to track your driving habits.
Melting Slicks
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From: Mt. Pleasant S.C.
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Safety Car
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From: Portland OR
Oh, we promise we won't gather or sell any data once the service is turned off. "Wink"
Just like the work surveys we take on line that are "strictly confidential"
Uh huh.
No maam, that's really yellow primer. Trust me!
Ron
Just like the work surveys we take on line that are "strictly confidential"
Uh huh.
No maam, that's really yellow primer. Trust me!
Ron
Racer
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 447
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From: Woodinville WA
Racer
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 447
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From: Woodinville WA
Thread Starter
Racer
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Oak Harbor WA
ONSTAR reverses part of their policy
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 860
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From: Everett WA.
She forgot to mention all the folks that might want to purchase the information from her to track your driving habits.
I compare it to an internet tracking cookie only potentially much more expensive.
I compare it to an internet tracking cookie only potentially much more expensive.
