PPG Concept SS 9300
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PPG Concept SS 9300
Can anyone give me a ballpark on amount of PPG concect SS 9300 black I will need to purchase to cover a C3 convertible to include hardtop with 3 coats. I have to purchase paint now as product will no longer be sold after June 1 thru my jobber. I was told a gallon and would just like to confirm that will be enough.Been using SPI for everything else over last 5 yr's and love it.
Thanks
ikwhite
Thanks
ikwhite
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How much paint needed is hard to tell. Because your spraying technique, equipment and primer color will judge how much paint is used/needed.
Including door jambs, If you are using an HVLP gun you should be OK with one gallon.
(1 3/4 gallon mixed 4:1:2 with DT reducer and hardener).
That is for 3 coats at approx 2 to 2.5 mil thick (wet) (1.5mil dry) per coat.
Concept mixes 4:1:2 and should cover approx 650sf at 1 mil.
If I'm right you should have between 1/3 and 1/2 a quart left over. If using an HVLP gun with a black primer and light overspray. But like I said your spraying habits, equipment and primer color will change everything.
But since you will no longer be able to buy it, It would not hurt to buy an extra quart. It is a win/win. If you don't use it during painting, you have it for future repairs if needed. Acrylic urethane will last forever as long as it is sealed and kept at room temp.
Oh and BTW: Mare sure you have all the orignal paint removed or a sealer sprayed. AU Concept does not get along with lacquers at all. It will lift.
Including door jambs, If you are using an HVLP gun you should be OK with one gallon.
(1 3/4 gallon mixed 4:1:2 with DT reducer and hardener).
That is for 3 coats at approx 2 to 2.5 mil thick (wet) (1.5mil dry) per coat.
Concept mixes 4:1:2 and should cover approx 650sf at 1 mil.
If I'm right you should have between 1/3 and 1/2 a quart left over. If using an HVLP gun with a black primer and light overspray. But like I said your spraying habits, equipment and primer color will change everything.
But since you will no longer be able to buy it, It would not hurt to buy an extra quart. It is a win/win. If you don't use it during painting, you have it for future repairs if needed. Acrylic urethane will last forever as long as it is sealed and kept at room temp.
Oh and BTW: Mare sure you have all the orignal paint removed or a sealer sprayed. AU Concept does not get along with lacquers at all. It will lift.
Last edited by lushdrunk; May 15, 2010 at 01:54 PM.
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Thanks
Thanks for the tips and info, today I picked up a galllon along with an extra quart of the PPG Concept.
ikwhite
ikwhite
How much paint needed is hard to tell. Because your spraying technique, equipment and primer color will judge how much paint is used/needed.
Including door jambs, If you are using an HVLP gun you should be OK with one gallon.
(1 3/4 gallon mixed 4:1:2 with DT reducer and hardener).
That is for 3 coats at approx 2 to 2.5 mil thick (wet) (1.5mil dry) per coat.
Concept mixes 4:1:2 and should cover approx 650sf at 1 mil.
If I'm right you should have between 1/3 and 1/2 a quart left over. If using an HVLP gun with a black primer and light overspray. But like I said your spraying habits, equipment and primer color will change everything.
But since you will no longer be able to buy it, It would not hurt to buy an extra quart. It is a win/win. If you don't use it during painting, you have it for future repairs if needed. Acrylic urethane will last forever as long as it is sealed and kept at room temp.
Oh and BTW: Mare sure you have all the orignal paint removed or a sealer sprayed. AU Concept does not get along with lacquers at all. It will lift.
Including door jambs, If you are using an HVLP gun you should be OK with one gallon.
(1 3/4 gallon mixed 4:1:2 with DT reducer and hardener).
That is for 3 coats at approx 2 to 2.5 mil thick (wet) (1.5mil dry) per coat.
Concept mixes 4:1:2 and should cover approx 650sf at 1 mil.
If I'm right you should have between 1/3 and 1/2 a quart left over. If using an HVLP gun with a black primer and light overspray. But like I said your spraying habits, equipment and primer color will change everything.
But since you will no longer be able to buy it, It would not hurt to buy an extra quart. It is a win/win. If you don't use it during painting, you have it for future repairs if needed. Acrylic urethane will last forever as long as it is sealed and kept at room temp.
Oh and BTW: Mare sure you have all the orignal paint removed or a sealer sprayed. AU Concept does not get along with lacquers at all. It will lift.
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I noticed you mentioned SPI, Are you planing on clear coating it has well? If not, concept polishes nicely (solid colors only)
You may want to make sure to get some extra DT reducer and hardener for the extra paint.
Canada's waterborne law is a kick in the junk. I'm open to using waterborne paints, But to make it like prohibition ....
I never dreamed Canada would switch to all waterborne paints. I'm curious to see how they transport it...... Ive never seen a heated paint delivery truck before.
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I noticed you mentioned SPI, Are you planing on clear coating it has well? If not, concept polishes nicely (solid colors only)
You may want to make sure to get some extra DT reducer and hardener for the extra paint.
Canada's waterborne law is a kick in the junk. I'm open to using waterborne paints, But to make it like prohibition ....
I have been using SPI epoxy and High Build primer and have had great success with the product. Not sure if I will use SPI or PPG's clear, but will probably pick up a quart or two of the SPI to try out as I hear good things about it.
As far as using waterborne paint if I was going to do a BC/CC I would just bite the bullet and except that is what it is, but I wanted to do a single stage black, and was told by Lordco/jobber that they will only be carring the Omni brand VOC compliant SS paint, and as I wanted to use Concept I was forced to move on it before I really wanted to, money wise.Thanks again fo your help and will be sure I pick up any reducer and hardner for extra paint.
Burning Brakes
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NP I'm happy to help.
Sounds like you got a good plan.
Good luck, and if you run into anything you need advice on let me know.
And be sure to post up pictures as you get it done! Nothing is better then a black corvette
Sounds like you got a good plan.
Good luck, and if you run into anything you need advice on let me know.
And be sure to post up pictures as you get it done! Nothing is better then a black corvette
Burning Brakes
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From: Charlotte NC
Kinda how a tri-coat looks.
It also allows it to be polished easer.
A lot of painters like to shoot a mix at the end. Ive never been a big fan of doing it, But ive seen a lot of good results from it.
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Melting Slicks
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It adds DOI (Depth of image) to the paint. It's like a tinted clear coat.
Kinda how a tri-coat looks.
It also allows it to be polished easer.
A lot of painters like to shoot a mix at the end. Ive never been a big fan of doing it, But ive seen a lot of good results from it.
Kinda how a tri-coat looks.
It also allows it to be polished easer.
A lot of painters like to shoot a mix at the end. Ive never been a big fan of doing it, But ive seen a lot of good results from it.
