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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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OK...heres my situation....headers will be off anyways for my clutch/diff change....right now i have 1 3/4" LG Pro Longtubes with offroad 3" X 32" primaries 3" race merge collectors, siamese X
I have a chance to go to a 1 7/8 ARH LT's with 3" offroad X or Kooks 1 7/8 LT with 3" offroad X for little to nothing(trade mine plus a couple parts i got laying around and a tune)....would you do it?
If so how much power increase/tq decrease am I looking at....I figure with the spec twin disk clutch upgrade(lower MOI), 1 7/8 headers, and remove the MAF completely (my car is SD tuned) and replace with a Silicone smooth piece...no MAF Air Restriction....probably looking at 480 Rwhp....Should make it slightly easier for 10s.....heres my one day wishes....remove heads...mill more, thinner head gasket, diff/bigger cam, TEA do their upgraded TFS head port work...i think 500 RWHP would be attainable!
Headers wise...would you keep my LG pros or go with a 1 7/8 ARH w/3" Offroad X or Kooks 1 7/8 with 3" Offroad X?

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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Here is a post that I asked the same question to and the response I got from someone who has done just what you are asking. Needless to say I will be doing the 1 7/8's when the time comes.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/perf...8-headers.html
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BTW anybody close to me (Goldsboro, NC) want to give a hand some time mid/late Feb wanna give a hand doing the Clutch/Rear/maybe headers?
Steak Dinner+Beer on me!
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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You will run 11.0s with either one so who cares. Flip a coin.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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You will run 11.0s with either one so who cares. Flip a coin.




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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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pitt what headers you run....Im not worried about nick....besides....running 11.0's is better than 11.20s right!
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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IMO 1 3/4 headers are best for a 346na motor no matter how you cut it. Keeps the torque there for that little motor. Hell i'm thinking of staying with 1 3/4 headers on a 408 to keep the torque up and cam the thing up and keep things in perspective.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
OK...heres my situation....headers will be off anyways for my clutch/diff change....right now i have 1 3/4" LG Pro Longtubes with offroad 3" X 32" primaries 3" race merge collectors, siamese X
I have a chance to go to a 1 7/8 ARH LT's with 3" offroad X or Kooks 1 7/8 LT with 3" offroad X for little to nothing....would you do it?
If so how much power increase/tq decrease am I looking at....I figure with the spec twin disk clutch upgrade(lower MOI), 1 7/8 headers, and remove the MAF completely (my car is SD tuned) and replace with a Silicone smooth piece...no MAF Air Restriction....probably looking at 480 Rwhp....Should make it slightly easier for 10s.....heres my one day wishes....remove heads...mill more, thinner head gasket, diff/bigger cam, TEA do their upgraded TFS head port work...i think 500 RWHP would be attainable!
Headers wise...would you keep my LG pros or go with a 1 7/8 ARH w/3" Offroad X or Kooks 1 7/8 with 3" Offroad X?
Doing that head work you will need the right cam spec'd and not be afraid to rev the heck out of the motor. I'm talking 7500ish to reap the full benefits but it will put you over the 500rwhp mark with the right cam. I would also send them your Fast to have it port matched.
I would change the headers as well if it was me and you had those plans in the future.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...s-1-7-8-a.html

A few more cubes but a good comparison to show that most of the low end mumbo jumbo is a myth.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
pitt what headers you run....Im not worried about nick....besides....running 11.0's is better than 11.20s right!
LG..off road...1.75
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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up top....opinions are like A-Holes...and i know theres lots of those on here...lets see those opinions haha
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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For a stock cube motor the 1 3/4" are plenty.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Screw the torque, if u can get ARH 1 7/8 without breaking pocket, man jump on that without second thought.

Ask them if they entertain SW HEaders with H flo cats and Corsa X-pipe plus cash.
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bump...still havnt been swayed one way or the other
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
bump...still havnt been swayed one way or the other
my car was just dynoed with 1 7/8 arh. verdict no noticeable torque loss and more power up top. whats gary running in his z0-6 looks like they work with his stock cam
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by paint it black vette
my car was just dynoed with 1 7/8 arh. verdict no noticeable torque loss and more power up top. whats gary running in his z0-6 looks like they work with his stock cam
ding ding ding

For those that think you will lose 20-30rwtq like "some" market it just that marketing schemes.

Kurt go with ARH 1 7/8 I am. yes Im stepping up the power a tad more over these TSP headers.
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
bump...still havnt been swayed one way or the other
I thought my pm would have swayed you.
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Do it. Dooooo iiiiiiiittt.
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Originally Posted by paint it black vette
my car was just dynoed with 1 7/8 arh. Verdict no noticeable torque loss and more power up top. Whats gary running in his z0-6 looks like they work with his stock cam
have you had a chance to drive it on the street yet?
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKSILVERZ
have you had a chance to drive it on the street yet?
not yet. im sure its no different if power is applied as the old set up,1 3/4 lt 3200 stall 3.42 gears old --new 1 7/8 3600 stall 3.73 gears. punch it hard will (out of control) squeeze the trigger from 25mph roll some control at the track in control with a good burnout
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Kooks 1 7/8. You can do it.
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