Viper vs Vette
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Viper vs Vette
A guy I work with owns a 2005 Viper SRT-10 and he thinks there's nothing I can do to my vette to beat him in a drag race. 
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
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From: jacksonville fla
The mods you mentioned and 100 shot should put you in the same ball park. Assuming the Viper is not heavily modded. He should be in the high to mid 11s on DRs if he is a good driver. If you are going to swap converters you should also consider swapping gears especially if you have 2.73s now. I would go for a Yank SS3600 with 3.42 or better yet 3.73 gears. You are also going to need DRs. I would also recommend you take your car to the track and get some practice in before you race the Viper.
Last edited by mitchell c; Jun 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM.
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a viper + drag radials + a good driver= low 11's all day long....i would put drag radials on your car and a 150 shot no less...that being said a 2800 stall (if motor is bone stock) along with 3.42 gears will assure you a victory every time.
Last edited by 9secondflat; Jun 27, 2009 at 05:09 AM.
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If you dont want to worry about having to say...wait...let me warm by bottle up and open the valve...hahaha
Heads, Cam, Stall, Gears, Intake, long tube headers & retune. You have a 2000 like me so you have the LS1 intake, get yourself an LS6 intake while you're at it.
I've done all the mods above over the course of about a year and it's a totally different car. And yes, I think it'll run with a viper.
As it stands right now, you're a low 13's car on a great day...you have a lot of time to cover!
If you're on a budget, you can do what I did and buy used parts from other forum members who desire to go faster. You can get heads and cam on here for a good price. You have a 2.73, so can't just buy a 3.42 ring/pinion....you'll have to send the diff out or buy a used 3.15 diff and replace the ring/pinion or buy a 3.42 diff complete. I bought heads, cam, pushrods, stall and ring/pinion for 1200.
Check the part section and start buying a little at a time and before you know it you'll have a great budget setup.
Have fun!
Heads, Cam, Stall, Gears, Intake, long tube headers & retune. You have a 2000 like me so you have the LS1 intake, get yourself an LS6 intake while you're at it.
I've done all the mods above over the course of about a year and it's a totally different car. And yes, I think it'll run with a viper.
As it stands right now, you're a low 13's car on a great day...you have a lot of time to cover!
If you're on a budget, you can do what I did and buy used parts from other forum members who desire to go faster. You can get heads and cam on here for a good price. You have a 2.73, so can't just buy a 3.42 ring/pinion....you'll have to send the diff out or buy a used 3.15 diff and replace the ring/pinion or buy a 3.42 diff complete. I bought heads, cam, pushrods, stall and ring/pinion for 1200.
Check the part section and start buying a little at a time and before you know it you'll have a great budget setup.
Have fun!
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I have the 3.15 gears already. I was thinking about going to a 3.42 but do you think that will be much of a difference? I was told that I shouldn't go too high on a gear because I still drive the car mostly on the street and I don't want to have traction issues or break a half shaft.
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I believe if you have some good tires (DR's) and a 150 shot.....you will win.
He has to shift at the correct time/rpm's to achieve a good time and also not missing a gear. YOU have an auto..........
Between the 150 shot being activated on mid to top of first gear and YOU with DR's not spinning any.......
you should be ahead of him 90% of the time -including the finish line !!
He has to shift at the correct time/rpm's to achieve a good time and also not missing a gear. YOU have an auto..........
Between the 150 shot being activated on mid to top of first gear and YOU with DR's not spinning any.......
you should be ahead of him 90% of the time -including the finish line !!
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A guy I work with owns a 2005 Viper SRT-10 and he thinks there's nothing I can do to my vette to beat him in a drag race.
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
All you need is a cam, exhaust and higher stall converter probably around 3500. With the right tires, provided you get some practice you should be able to get mid 11's all day and still have decent daily driver.
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A guy I work with owns a 2005 Viper SRT-10 and he thinks there's nothing I can do to my vette to beat him in a drag race.
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
He claims it's stock except for some drag radials. He said he's raced it before and he can probably drive it well. That should probably put him in the high 11's right?
Anyway, my problem is finding out the cheapest and easiest way to outrun him. The Corvette has to come out on top. My vette is a 2000 coupe AT. My current mods only include a Vararam intake, cat-back, and a dyno tune. So I'm obviously far off.
I was thinking some long-tube headers, a higher stall torque converter, better tires, and maybe a 100 shot would do the trick. Do you think that would put me where I need to be? What stall converter should I go with? I'm on a budget so I was trying to stay away from forced induction or a motor swap.
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He needs to go down if he thinks a vette can't beat him.
Save your money and set him up against another modded vette.
Or just have a ECS Novi supercharger installed, which will take him out with your current setup and will drive like stock.
http://eastcoastsupercharging.com/SC600.html
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Vararam, 3600 Vigilante, Long tubes, .600'ish lift cam and 3.42 gear you should be in the mid 11's...add a 100kit (TNT is my choice and you will need a fuel pump) well into the 10's allday long! Ofcourse good tires are a given (M/T ET streets if my choice)
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With your mods (primarily vararam, and tune) you should be around 13 flat.
A stall and gears will drop you .75 sec. ,and a 150 shot another 1 - 1 1/4 sec for VERY low 11's Make sure you get an NX kit (or equivalent that is rated AT THE WHEELS) The torque that the N2O generates will more than make up for his stock(?) V10s hp.
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From: jacksonville fla
Before you go to the expense of modding your car to race your buddy. Try to make sure he is REALLY STOCK. Remember you can easily put a NOS kit on a Viper. If he has done a NOS kit or other heavy duty mods you can forget about it.
Last edited by mitchell c; Jun 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM.
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I'm in Richmond, Virginia. I already told him I know somebody that can beat him and his response was "I know somebody that can beat him." I have a feeling his car isn't stock. Like 4DRush said, his car cost 30k more than mine. He will get beat by my vette even if he beats me the first time. His car is a stick so I'm thinking that will be his downfall.
