Can I beat this Cobra?
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From: Sublette Kansas
LMAO, Yeah, that makes me real glad I don't like Fords, I would hate to deal with heat soak all the time just to try and run 12's lol
Safety Car
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I've run my car to low 10's on basically stock suspension (Z06 shocks and swaybars). Whats hodling you back is most likely a lack of seat time (at the track) and good wheel and tire package. With your hp level you are leaving a lot on the table.
Safety Car
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Why would he install a 2.2? Doesnt kb have a 2.8? and whipple has like a 3.x I believe. Even with the whipple. Tell him you wanna do 5 runs. The first two are from 60-160. His car will be so heat soaked it won't even be funny. Then proceed to walk him. That's if his motor is still alive. Termi's are known for grenading motors for winding out 5th gear at WOT. Centri blowers FTW.
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From: Sublette Kansas
Why would he install a 2.2? Doesnt kb have a 2.8? and whipple has like a 3.x I believe. Even with the whipple. Tell him you wanna do 5 runs. The first two are from 60-160. His car will be so heat soaked it won't even be funny. Then proceed to walk him. That's if his motor is still alive. Termi's are known for grenading motors for winding out 5th gear at WOT. Centri blowers FTW.
Le Mans Master
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From: Orange Park FL
Damn, well thats impressive, but like I said, OUT HERE they wont. My brother raced a BLUE 03 Cobra with full bolt-ons, ported blower on 16psi. My brother has a 99 reg cab Silverado that we built, it has an LS1 with GMPP CNC ported and milled 243 heads 61.9cc chambers, Comp custom ground (by us) cam 232/236 .595/.601 112LSA XE-R lobed, Edlebrock Pro-Flo XT intake manifold, Yank SS4000 stall, fully built 4L60e, 4.56 gears w/Detroit tru-trac, and a 100 wet-shot of N2O. He ran an 11.5@116 mph. He ran from a 40mph roll and he beat the Cobra 2 lengths 2 out of 2 runs. Then two weeks later, this BLUE Cobra raced the WHITE Cobra I was wanting to race and the WHITE Cobra beat him by a fender length....
Also, you're right on the 2.3, I had actually argued with my brother, he said it was a 2.3 and I thought it had been a 2.2. So I guess it was a 2.2.
Here's a link to my brother's truck on the track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQLUWp4OFg
Also, you're right on the 2.3, I had actually argued with my brother, he said it was a 2.3 and I thought it had been a 2.2. So I guess it was a 2.2.
Here's a link to my brother's truck on the track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQLUWp4OFg
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From: Sublette Kansas
On that run it was 1.64, his best ever. While he was pullin up to the staging line after the bunout, he opened his bottle so that the lines would no be purged yet, since it was the first run of the night on the N2O. Crazy thing was he was on MT ET Street Radials and it was axle hoppin all the way through 1st gear! He then tried it again later and spun alot harder and ran an 11.6@116. He has the overload springs removed, cut 10" off of each end of the center leafs (to get it that low), shocks off of a Timpte grain trailer, and home made long bars. His ALL MOTOR passes were consistent 12.2@108's with a best 60' of 1.700
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From: Sublette Kansas
Yea at the track, with a REALLY sticky tire! Them Mustangs with a stock IRS, IMO, won't 60' hard enough to do that. The fastest fully bolted Cobra on stock IRS we've ever seen at our local track was a 12.4
Burning Brakes
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F#<k it just get sticky tires and squeeze a shot on him at the top end. Your gonna crush him outta the whole so he is gonna have to power around you, but he won't get around a little squeeze.
I'm in the same boat, my buddy has a built KB Cobra Vert with 700 million rwhp and thinks he is king shhhhh , but is scared to do anything but roll race. I just got my Vette and have got all my parts together for mild H/C/I package just waiting on a EPS cam. I should be about 440rwhp when done and can't wait to serve this clown in front of everyone at the track. Power isn't everything, they have to put it down, the more power the harder it is. Truth is just run your times and let him figure out how to catch you.
I'm in the same boat, my buddy has a built KB Cobra Vert with 700 million rwhp and thinks he is king shhhhh , but is scared to do anything but roll race. I just got my Vette and have got all my parts together for mild H/C/I package just waiting on a EPS cam. I should be about 440rwhp when done and can't wait to serve this clown in front of everyone at the track. Power isn't everything, they have to put it down, the more power the harder it is. Truth is just run your times and let him figure out how to catch you.
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false..
a roll is actually more about which car is faster...a dig is a drivers game more than what the car can do.
just ask me.. 623whp and stock suspension, while its not slow at the track(11.6@131mph) it isnt the best it could be by a long shot. but, if you want to try me from a 35 roll i will hand you your lunch.
but hey thats just my $.02
to the OP i think he will get ya,
a roll is actually more about which car is faster...a dig is a drivers game more than what the car can do.
just ask me.. 623whp and stock suspension, while its not slow at the track(11.6@131mph) it isnt the best it could be by a long shot. but, if you want to try me from a 35 roll i will hand you your lunch.
but hey thats just my $.02
to the OP i think he will get ya,
I used to drive a FWD Cobalt SS/SC. I would hang with and beat low 13 second cars ... from a roll. I was not the faster car.
It's all just a personal philosophy. For instance, in my eyes, all these high horsepower Supras running around that will spank your Corvette only after you've put 5 car lengths on them and they've finally spooled are not fast cars in my eyes. They are the epitome of inefficiency. Someone else may say, they are fast because they do have the ability to cut through the air at a high rate of speed. I believe it takes a little bit more to earn the title of "fast car".
BTW, this guy wouldn't race from a stop if I offered him $20, BEFORE the race LOL. He's always full of excuses! "I got NO TRACTION" "It jess go'z si'wayz" blah blah blah... He has owned this car for almost a year now and before this one he owned a Lightning that dyno'd over 600rwhp and built both of them himself, yet has NEVER been to the track with either one!
That's just my own personal feelings and philosophies of racing.
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F#<k it just get sticky tires and squeeze a shot on him at the top end. Your gonna crush him outta the whole so he is gonna have to power around you, but he won't get around a little squeeze.
I'm in the same boat, my buddy has a built KB Cobra Vert with 700 million rwhp and thinks he is king shhhhh , but is scared to do anything but roll race. I just got my Vette and have got all my parts together for mild H/C/I package just waiting on a EPS cam. I should be about 440rwhp when done and can't wait to serve this clown in front of everyone at the track. Power isn't everything, they have to put it down, the more power the harder it is. Truth is just run your times and let him figure out how to catch you.
I'm in the same boat, my buddy has a built KB Cobra Vert with 700 million rwhp and thinks he is king shhhhh , but is scared to do anything but roll race. I just got my Vette and have got all my parts together for mild H/C/I package just waiting on a EPS cam. I should be about 440rwhp when done and can't wait to serve this clown in front of everyone at the track. Power isn't everything, they have to put it down, the more power the harder it is. Truth is just run your times and let him figure out how to catch you.
Melting Slicks
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From: port monmouth nj
thats because they cant or dont know how to launch there high 11 sec street junk. i raced a rousch stage 2 cobra at a t and t a few years back with my old h/c set up he went 12.1 i went 11.4. put a blower on your vette and play there game (roll race) and youll crush them from a dig and a roll
Burning Brakes
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It's all just a personal philosophy. For instance, in my eyes, all these high horsepower Supras running around that will spank your Corvette only after you've put 5 car lengths on them and they've finally spooled are not fast cars in my eyes. They are the epitome of inefficiency. Someone else may say, they are fast because they do have the ability to cut through the air at a high rate of speed. I believe it takes a little bit more to earn the title of "fast car".
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From: Hooterville, NJ
In case of Breakage. He may also have been running race fuel in which driving to track gets expensive.
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Two weeks ago a Cobra wanted to do a run. I knew I would lose, but I thought it would be kinda fun, but this thing literally bent my car over it's hood and had its' way with my vette. My car looked like a 2.8 1986 Blazer compared to his cobra. After the rape we pulled over and he popped his hood, he had an upgraded super-charger(2.8 something?) cam, full-exhuast. He said they were putting 500+ to the wheels, I dont remember the exact numbers. I dont like mustangs, but this thing was a beast. Much respect. Dont race it, the terminator will make you its' bitch.
