gear change WoW!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Eagle Rock Missouri
gear change WoW!
I might be able to be in the high 12s now, I just changed my 3:15 to 3:42 what a difference it made, my car is a 99 auto, now 3:42 gears, bbk shorties, hurricane cai, hypermax tuned, Ti cat back, double roller timing chain, hi flo oil pump, air pump delete. Zo6 wheels.
Racer
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From: jacksonville fla
Get the Yank SS3600 for sure.Excluding NOS it's best bang for the buck mod on an A4 hands down. On a day with good air you might hit the high 11s. But if you want a consistent 11 sec car you will need a bigger cam.
Le Mans Master
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From: Palm Coast, FL
I always hear of "driveability" being an issue but do not understand what folks are actually talking about. please explain. A tuner can do a LOT of things with a higher stall today and make it drive absolutely flawless. And when running at the track, a good convertor is worth its weight!!
You might want to drive a few higher stalled cars before making your final decision on a convertor... If you were closer, I have a 3600 and a 4K to compare. I think you'd like them both.
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From: Portland OR
I had a 2800 with 343's before going with 373'2 and a Yank SS 4000 in my "98" with the 346 Ci motor. IMHO, the 2800 works better in a FI car then a N/A one.
I always hear of "driveability" being an issue but do not understand what folks are actually talking about. please explain. A tuner can do a LOT of things with a higher stall today and make it drive absolutely flawless. And when running at the track, a good convertor is worth its weight!! You might want to drive a few higher stalled cars before making your final decision on a convertor... If you were closer, I have a 3600 and a 4K to compare. I think you'd like them both.
I always hear of "driveability" being an issue but do not understand what folks are actually talking about. please explain. A tuner can do a LOT of things with a higher stall today and make it drive absolutely flawless. And when running at the track, a good convertor is worth its weight!!
You might want to drive a few higher stalled cars before making your final decision on a convertor... If you were closer, I have a 3600 and a 4K to compare. I think you'd like them both.The SS3600 slips and slides all the time if you apply throttle.
I'm not sure what a tuner can do to fix that? Kill the low end torque?
Yes, you can set it to lock in 3rd and 4th earlier.....but you aren't going to get away from the fact that the engine will sit at 2500 rpm or higher any time you apply some throttle.
I drive mine every day. It's my driver. I like it. But it doesn't feel stock at all.
Ron
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From: jacksonville fla
A SS3600 drives nothing like stock....no matter what you say. I think you forgot what the stock converter felt like. They will foot stall to maybe 1500 rpm....maybe.
The SS3600 slips and slides all the time if you apply throttle.
I'm not sure what a tuner can do to fix that? Kill the low end torque?
Yes, you can set it to lock in 3rd and 4th earlier.....but you aren't going to get away from the fact that the engine will sit at 2500 rpm or higher any time you apply some throttle.
I drive mine every day. It's my driver. I like it. But it doesn't feel stock at all.
Ron
The SS3600 slips and slides all the time if you apply throttle.
I'm not sure what a tuner can do to fix that? Kill the low end torque?
Yes, you can set it to lock in 3rd and 4th earlier.....but you aren't going to get away from the fact that the engine will sit at 2500 rpm or higher any time you apply some throttle.
I drive mine every day. It's my driver. I like it. But it doesn't feel stock at all.
Ron
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From: Portland OR
Your SS3600 must have come from the factory setup too loose. I had an SS3600 before the SS4000 I have now and neither of them felt loose and didn't go to 2500 rpm when I apply a little throttle.If you ever have to remove your converter send it back to Yank and ask them to set it up tight. BTW what gears are you running. The bigger the gears the more like stock the converter will feel.
From the data logs, it flash stalls right to 3600..........
I bought it new in the box from a forum member, so maybe it was set up loose....but I really don't think so. It will idle away from a stop just fine. But once in 3rd or 4th, unlocked, it's slippery.
If what you say is true, i'd rather have the SS4000. But as you know, it is not trivial to replace the converter in a C5.
FWIW...I follow the trans section over on LSTech.....guys there install SS3600/4000 and half complain that it slips all the time, the other half swear it drives like stock....so what to make of that? Yank has no quality control? It's an off the shelf converter yet seems the opinions on slip vary all over the map.
Ron
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Le Mans Master
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From: Palm Coast, FL
Yea...It's been a LONG time since I drove one with a stock convertor.
I wasn't saying they drive like stock but was asking about the drivability with having a higher stall. My 4k is loose, that's the way we want it setup for the track but I still drive it daily and know exactly what the car is gonna do when accelerating in traffic, etc.. currently going to rebuild the convertor and leave it loose. There seems to be a science to these things, when setup correctly, they drive great no matter where or how you are driving. My 3600 is setup pretty tight but my 4k is loose - go figure
I wasn't saying they drive like stock but was asking about the drivability with having a higher stall. My 4k is loose, that's the way we want it setup for the track but I still drive it daily and know exactly what the car is gonna do when accelerating in traffic, etc.. currently going to rebuild the convertor and leave it loose. There seems to be a science to these things, when setup correctly, they drive great no matter where or how you are driving. My 3600 is setup pretty tight but my 4k is loose - go figure
Le Mans Master
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From: Portland OR
I set mine to lock at 53.......frick'n Oregonians don't know how to drive at 55........
Unlocks at 50.
Mainly set up for my commute which has one long uphill stretch, locking at 50 it's not real happy.
I haven't messed with the downshift stuff, so once mine goes up a gear, it pretty much stays there unless I give it a ton of gas.
Fun stuff to play with.
I don't let mine lock at more than 20% throttle, it locks pretty hard above that. So if on the gas a bit, I just lift and let it lock.
Unlocks at 50.
Mainly set up for my commute which has one long uphill stretch, locking at 50 it's not real happy.
I haven't messed with the downshift stuff, so once mine goes up a gear, it pretty much stays there unless I give it a ton of gas.
Fun stuff to play with.
I don't let mine lock at more than 20% throttle, it locks pretty hard above that. So if on the gas a bit, I just lift and let it lock.
Burning Brakes
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From: Longview Texas
A SS3600 drives nothing like stock....no matter what you say. I think you forgot what the stock converter felt like. They will foot stall to maybe 1500 rpm....maybe.
The SS3600 slips and slides all the time if you apply throttle.
I'm not sure what a tuner can do to fix that? Kill the low end torque?
Yes, you can set it to lock in 3rd and 4th earlier.....but you aren't going to get away from the fact that the engine will sit at 2500 rpm or higher any time you apply some throttle.
I drive mine every day. It's my driver. I like it. But it doesn't feel stock at all.
Ron
The SS3600 slips and slides all the time if you apply throttle.
I'm not sure what a tuner can do to fix that? Kill the low end torque?
Yes, you can set it to lock in 3rd and 4th earlier.....but you aren't going to get away from the fact that the engine will sit at 2500 rpm or higher any time you apply some throttle.
I drive mine every day. It's my driver. I like it. But it doesn't feel stock at all.
Ron
We put a 3.90 gear in as well as a Yank SS4000 and went from 13.3x ET's to 12.20s. It was an amazing difference. However, just like Ron said, there is considerable slippage on the street when you begin moving and it takes a bit to get used to it. We race ours and don't drive on the street anymore but you could if you had too.
Scott
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From: jacksonville fla
I have 3.42 gears. I drag the car a lot.
From the data logs, it flash stalls right to 3600..........
I bought it new in the box from a forum member, so maybe it was set up loose....but I really don't think so. It will idle away from a stop just fine. But once in 3rd or 4th, unlocked, it's slippery.
If what you say is true, i'd rather have the SS4000. But as you know, it is not trivial to replace the converter in a C5.
FWIW...I follow the trans section over on LSTech.....guys there install SS3600/4000 and half complain that it slips all the time, the other half swear it drives like stock....so what to make of that? Yank has no quality control? It's an off the shelf converter yet seems the opinions on slip vary all over the map.
Ron
From the data logs, it flash stalls right to 3600..........
I bought it new in the box from a forum member, so maybe it was set up loose....but I really don't think so. It will idle away from a stop just fine. But once in 3rd or 4th, unlocked, it's slippery.
If what you say is true, i'd rather have the SS4000. But as you know, it is not trivial to replace the converter in a C5.
FWIW...I follow the trans section over on LSTech.....guys there install SS3600/4000 and half complain that it slips all the time, the other half swear it drives like stock....so what to make of that? Yank has no quality control? It's an off the shelf converter yet seems the opinions on slip vary all over the map.
Ron
Burning Brakes
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From: Hampton Va
Let me tell you my story,I had a 2000 coupe 400 rwhp and 390 rtq, 3;73 gears drove it for 8 yrs loved this car, it ran best of 11.6s stock stall,i put a yank 3600 in the car it ran great , but i hated it...unless you are going to race your car more than i did,i wouldnt go with a 3600 ss yank..Either you were in it or it made alot of noise and wasnt going anywhere real quick anymore, but yep when u put the peddle down then you are moving rather quick if you can hook it up.... just wasnt for me ,2800 is max i would get for very little racing ....Oh i now own a stick and would never go back unless i drag raced it