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I'm looking at a new body, I'm tired of the oil spots on the D600. I ca go with another DSLR, the D780, which is an excellent camera but the price point I'm looking at the condition is well used. I don't care about scratches and dings. but well used would tell me the shutter count is probably closer to fail than I would like.
The alternate is a Z6II Z7 Z7II, which are mirrorless. do mirrorless cameras have a fail point like shutter clicks?
Last edited by Markm10431; Jan 20, 2025 at 05:46 PM.
I'm looking at a new body, I'm tired of the oil spots on the D600. I ca go with another DSLR, the D780, which is an excellent camera but the price point I'm looking at the condition is well used. I don't care about scratches and dings. but well used would tell me the shutter count is probably closer to fail than I would like.
The alternate is a Z6II Z7 Z7II, which are mirrorless. do mirrorless cameras have a fail point like shutter clicks?
Yes and no. There is a mechanical shutter in most that will have a limit to actuations and it can be looked up to see how many actuations it has. The more reputable used dealers will post it in the description. Some cameras have an electronic shutter which will not up the count. Some Nikons specifically only use electronic shutter so this is a non issue.
ps you will eventually be buying new glass cause converters will get old, so do not limit yourself to Nikon just cause that is what you are using now. Do research on your needs and what system works best for you.
when i switched from dslr to mirrorless i went from Nikon to Sony. Because of the almost unlimited number of quality lenses both from Sony as well as sigma and tamron.
I'm looking at a new body, I'm tired of the oil spots on the D600. I ca go with another DSLR, the D780, which is an excellent camera but the price point I'm looking at the condition is well used. I don't care about scratches and dings. but well used would tell me the shutter count is probably closer to fail than I would like.
The alternate is a Z6II Z7 Z7II, which are mirrorless. do mirrorless cameras have a fail point like shutter clicks?
As Drew said...the honest answer is not really straight forward. Almost all Mirrorless camera have both a Mechanical and Electronic Shutters. So in a way you may not use the Mechanical Shutter as much (showing a lower shutter count) but then if you use Electronic Shutter all of the time it is much or reliant on complex electronic circuitry so there is that potential problem. There are many advantages to Mirrorless but also some drawbacks and used (even very high end ones) DSLR can be had at a bargain. The question you have to ask yourself are two fold: 1) What problem is going with a Mirrorless vs. DSLR solving 2) Am I changing because I know that is a direction I am going in for the future anyway.
IMO if someone is a casual shooter and does not have a lot of lenses and/or is not going to invest in new/different lenses ...and they already have lenses for a certain mount they like then I would stay with that platform. Conversely if someone is making a jump to shooting more, or going to buy several new lenses anyway...then I would go mirrorless. These questions are hard for me because to give an honest/accurate advice it really varies based on several factors.
I know Nikon's future is Mirrorles. hell, i think all cameras are going mirrorless eventually. the FTZ adapter lets me use the 2.8 200mm zoom, until i decide if i DO want to go mirrorless all in. in Nikon's case, it seems unless you go to the top of the line, there seems to be a tracking issue with focus on fast objects. it's the only reservation i have,
I know Nikon's future is Mirrorles. hell, i think all cameras are going mirrorless eventually. the FTZ adapter lets me use the 2.8 200mm zoom, until i decide if i DO want to go mirrorless all in. in Nikon's case, it seems unless you go to the top of the line, there seems to be a tracking issue with focus on fast objects. it's the only reservation i have,
according to all the reviews i’ve seen Nikon was late to the game and has not fully figured it out yet. If you are going to make the leap to mirrorless i strongly suggest you do research on the features you want and move forward from there. When i switched years ago sony was top dog in the autofocus game which is why i went with them along with the huge line up of lenses. Today canon has cought up very strong in the autofocus game but still has some slow telephotos and only recently opened up their mount to third parties. If you are ok with the canon lens prices canon is a fantastic choice as is sony. I dont want to bash nikon but they are not there yet although they have made very good strides in their last several cameras. Also with any of these cameras do not be afraid of quality used equipment. A lot of people get into the hobby get frustrated and barely use their stuff then move on from it and the stuff is basically open box. The reputable dealers will also test, evaluate and warranty the used equipment in case there is an issue they missed.
everything I've posted since mid Feb has been the 780, except today's shots which were the 5300.
I actually found out that the D780, although a DSLR it also has an electronic shutter via live view.
everything I've posted since mid Feb has been the 780, except today's shots which were the 5300.
I actually found out that the D780, although a DSLR it also has an electronic shutter via live view.
I guess i chose the wrong thread to ask. i remember you got the 780. i thought this was the thread where you were looking at the new mirrorless but i now realize that was another thread you had started.
Z8 is the oldest design of the 4. the 50II is the newest
isn’t it the “flagship” model though? I know it is supposed to be the z9 but the z8 is basically the same without the vertical handle? I realize this conversation should be happening in the other thread, but it solves the question you had because this camera gives you a 45 megapixel sensor that also shoots 20 FPS and is a stacked sensor so you won’t get rolling shutter
it's also an additional grand. and from what I'm reading, a lot of people are no liking the additional weight, not hat it would be an issue for me, the DSLRs i choose tent to be heavy anyway. Who knows I might find a gently used one when i'm ready